Trouble with my av in RC 1.23.2

Is anyone else having trouble being a very small avatar in the newest RC? My little compsognathus is now partially surrounded by a misshapen lump of obscene flesh, too disgusting to make a picture of it.

Is there some preference setting I neglected to turn on? I'm worried now that others using this RC will see me this way even if I'm on the regular viewer.

I suppose I could test it with an alt.

Addendum.

I tried visiting myself with my alt (using two viewers at once) in the regular viewer and I look fine to him / me. But reversing, with my tiny compsognathus in the regular viewer and my alt in RC viewer, I again have that misshapen naked teleporter accident look.

They've got to fix this before the RC can be used! Tinies will not want to look like mutant fetuses.

That is a thing that the Lindens broke on purpose. Megaprims do not hide avatars any more.

Your entire problem is that the creator of your avatar is relying on a bug for your avatar to look correct. The fact that your avatar is broken is, in truth, a fix for a longstanding bug which should not be there. That's why they have "fixed this" in the RC, as it should not exist in the first place. Yes, it means a problem for your ultra-tiny avatar, but it's in truth a sacrifice that must be made. Inform the creator of this issue so they can educate themselves and will be primed to create a new version which is compatible with a bug-free client and you could score some brownie points with them.

This one has caused quite a bit of controversy.
A glitch makes it possible to use megaprims to hide an avatar without the annoying side effects invisiprims usually cause.
LL has been explicit that this *is* a bug, and it *will* be fixed, but nevertheless, some avatar makers used it, either not knowing LL's stance, or banking on it becoming a "defacto feature" anyway like, say, WarpPos or other tricks which are so widely used that they cannot be removed, even if they are technically bugs.
There is a feature somewhere in the pipe (though not in the 1.23 version) which will allow you to actually use invisible textures on the avatar, and a large part of the controversy comes from LL removing this hack before going live with the "true" invisibility, with LL's counterargument being that the longer they left this trick in, the more content would be made and then break once it was fixed.

Yep. I would just say that some of us would actually welcome a fix that breaks the warpPos hack (and with it, lots and lots of content) *if* it were preceded by maybe a year of some workable llTeleportAgent() / llTeleportObject(). These have been discussed for years, so everyone has pretty much given up on them now, but the point is that offering a proper alternative *before* breaking a hack would have made this all go down a lot better. Instead the fear was that creators would base more and more content on the hack, so even more stuff would break later. It's kind of lose-lose, no matter what LL did.

So I wasn't just imagining it. A pity -- I really love this avatar.

Thanks all.

You can workaround it in the meantime by wearing an invisiprim to cover your body. It won't look as good but will tide you over until 1.24.

I also made a viewer patch that un-breaks that part of the code. (All they did was include a simple check statement that does nothing but break the hider, pathetic) If you know how to compile a client , or if you know someone that can compile a stand-alone viewer for you, you can do that. Otherwise, your only options are invisiprims (the compy used to use them) or using the 1.22 viewer.

EDIT: Here's the controversy: http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-2723

But a short version would be:

Content creators: You're breaking stuff, cut it out.
LL: Baaaawwwwwrageclose

Interestingly, after I pointed out BigPapi's behavior to Blue during his office hour, BigPapi learned to not use his caps lock key.

I'm thinking that a patch might be kind of a losing proposition if LL doesn't want to reincorporate the behavior. LL's stats show that most people jump onto the latest official release within a few weeks, and that not a lot of us are running anything custom :/ May as well live with the invisiprim bubble for the time being.

That sounds cool, but it's how others see me if they are using the RC viewer that worries me. I'll try to figure out the invisiprim method. I also put in a notecard to the vendor to see if they still have an invisiprim version.

Thanks for the great suggestions.

Don't worry about how other people see you, you have little control over that. With the ability to turn off attached particles and lights, and Avatar Imposters, no two people ever see the same thing. Not to mention the zillions of third party viewers out there that do different things. I've taken to putting a "helpful" message on the back of my avatar mesh head for people using a fail viewer. By the way, Nargus (maker of the compy) already knows about the 1.23 crap and may already have a Survival Kit made for it. Even if he doesn't though, it's not hard to make an invisiprim yourself. The compy's shape and size call for a pretty big one anyway, no finessing will help.

And if you don't believe me about avatars looking different across viewers, just look at the number of people with nuclear glow hair and Chernobyl facelights! (Ok technically that's Windlight, but it's still funny)

Oh Weston, maybe if you go back to your true canine self you will look okay again!

Marzi

Only if that avatar uses invisiprims, or is chunky enough to not need to hide the mesh.

A great many tinies and micros use the megaprim hiding trick because it's vastly superior to invisiprims. LL never told anyone they were breaking it except on the developer mailing list (I think, I wasn't there at the time) and on the JIRA long after people were using it.

You are right. And for the time being I am doing just that.

I think this is a deceptively dangerous argument. Of course people care how they look to other people, because they do mostly look the same to other people, and it does matter how they look to other people... if it wasn't true, very few people would bother buying fancy avatars... whether compys or pennysnatchers.

And, yes, that includes people with facelights. If they were just trying to "look good" for themselves they'd set their windlight settings and have done with it.

That's true, my post was worded incorrectly...I meant "for the time being" more than all the time. 1.23 is nearing completion, so I would expect 1.24 and alpha masking to be coming soon and with it the ability to fix the various avatars broken by 1.23. Stuff gets broken fairly often, and you just have to deal with it however you can until it gets fixed. That's the mindset I meant.

Personally, I make my avatar look a certain way for my own amusement before anyone else's. Though I do enjoy it when someone goes "Oh how cute!" or "How did you do that?" or "What the heck is that!?" of course.

The rest of the story:

The vendor contacted me and showed me where the invisiprim backup is for the compy in my inventory.

I knew this was a content creator with integrity. All's well that ends well. Sorry for the semi-false alarm, but I did learn a lot from the thread.