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Solanghe Sarlo

Gypsy Free Thinker

Join date: 19 Jul 2006

Posts: 644

01-23-2008 10:32

*Posted in Technical, no responses so I will try here....

Has anyone noticed that the SL horizon seems to be hazy or foggy?

I noticed this about 6 days ago. I haven't changed any settings...my home is on a hill overlooking a beach and there is a definate haze in the sky and over the water; also as I look farther out. There is a lighthouse that used to be clearly visible, not I have to fly right up on it to see it.

I have already tried toggling fog off.

Anyone else notice this or knows what it is? Could it be an isolated problem on the Sim? It's definately not normal for me.

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Sally Silvera

live music maniac

Join date: 17 Feb 2007

Posts: 2,325

01-23-2008 10:39

Hi Solanghe,

You sure you haven't changed you draw distance? I accidentally did by only a tiny bit and it made a huge difference.
Also.... what viewer are you using?

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Solanghe Sarlo

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Join date: 19 Jul 2006

Posts: 644

01-23-2008 11:00

Hi Sally,

My draw distance is always set at 64, I did check that. As for the viewer, I am using whatever the last update gave us. = )

This just started a few days ago. Weird.

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Kalderi Tomsen

Nomad Extraordinaire!

Join date: 10 May 2007

Posts: 888

01-23-2008 11:12

Damn I hate smog. Someone should put a stop to all this prim-pollution, I tell ya.

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Solanghe Sarlo

Gypsy Free Thinker

Join date: 19 Jul 2006

Posts: 644

01-23-2008 12:10

From: Kalderi Tomsen

Damn I hate smog. Someone should put a stop to all this prim-pollution, I tell ya.

Heh. I tell you that is exactly what it looks like Kal. Smog.

I guess I'll call the sim owner and ask her about it. It's on my home sim, where my store is located (different sim) and various places in SL. So, it must be me, right?

SL. Gotta love the weirdness.

*sighs*

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Avion Raymaker

Palacio del Emperador!

Join date: 18 Jun 2007

Posts: 980

01-23-2008 12:22

Solanghe, I believe I've noticed the same thing. When I lower my draw distance, I get fog at my self-imposed "horizon" that I don't remember seeing before.

I thought it might have been an attempted enhancement. What I like about it is that it makes the end of your draw distance less abrupt. It also softens the appearance of your neighbors' builds.

Sally Silvera

live music maniac

Join date: 17 Feb 2007

Posts: 2,325

01-23-2008 12:38

Okidoki,

Just tested this and the horizon does indeed go hazy or foggy or smoggy when I reduce my draw distance.
Never noticed it before, but then I've had my draw distance crancked all the way up recently.

Guess it's a feature

.

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Cherry Czervik

Came To Her Senses

Join date: 18 Feb 2006

Posts: 3,680

01-23-2008 12:47

Yep that's normal.

HOWEVER I've always quite liked that hazy look especially when the horizon is messy.

If you use Windlight and mess about with the sky settings you can get a horizon effect that is pretty funky. My favourite setting shows azure seas which are more transparent than the norm, a slightly bluer sky and a slightly hazy blur between the two - looks like that "rim" of water you can see if you are looking at a whole horizon of water rl. Pretty!

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Solanghe Sarlo

Gypsy Free Thinker

Join date: 19 Jul 2006

Posts: 644

01-23-2008 12:58

From: Sally Silvera

Okidoki,

Just tested this and the horizon does indeed go hazy or foggy or smoggy when I reduce my draw distance.
Never noticed it before, but then I've had my draw distance crancked all the way up recently.

Guess it's a feature

.

Interesting. I guess LL just slipped that one in. Unless I missed it in the release notes. I hope I can see the lighthouse from my window again if I make an adjustment.

Thanks for your help and responses guys.

/me goes off to read the latest version release notes.

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Solanghe Sarlo

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Posts: 644

01-23-2008 13:02

From: Cherry Czervik

Yep that's normal.

HOWEVER I've always quite liked that hazy look especially when the horizon is messy.

If you use Windlight and mess about with the sky settings you can get a horizon effect that is pretty funky. My favourite setting shows azure seas which are more transparent than the norm, a slightly bluer sky and a slightly hazy blur between the two - looks like that "rim" of water you can see if you are looking at a whole horizon of water rl. Pretty!

Hmmm. That sounds nice, but you know I am kinda scared to try the windlight viewer. I have visions of a crash-tastic good time. Things are pretty stable for me at the moment so I'm afraid to do anything. LOL

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Ava Glasgow

Hippie surfer chick

Join date: 27 Jan 2007

Posts: 2,172

01-23-2008 22:50

In the regular (non-windlight) viewer, there is actually a second setting to control fog. Under the Advanced Graphics tab, there is something called "fog distance ratio". Raising that number will make the fog appear farther away, and lowering it will bring the fog closer.

Bradley Bracken

Goodbye, Farewell, Amen

Join date: 2 Apr 2007

Posts: 3,856

01-23-2008 22:53

Living in Los Angeles it just looked normal to me, but I just checked and you are right. It looks much more smoggy now than it did before.

It doesn't really look like typical fog.

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Solanghe Sarlo

Gypsy Free Thinker

Join date: 19 Jul 2006

Posts: 644

01-23-2008 23:53

Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it. Whew.

It seems a bit clearer today though.

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Cherry Czervik

Came To Her Senses

Join date: 18 Feb 2006

Posts: 3,680

01-24-2008 00:14

From: Ava Glasgow

In the regular (non-windlight) viewer, there is actually a second setting to control fog. Under the Advanced Graphics tab, there is something called "fog distance ratio". Raising that number will make the fog appear farther away, and lowering it will bring the fog closer.

Nice! Haven't tried messing with that yet (too busy pointing at the screen and going PRETTY!! like a moron).

Solanghe, I have empathy re the crashtastic time - I find if I stay away from crowds it doesn't crash me so much. However, the crashes are at least drop to desktop rather than timing out.

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Archie Lukas

Transcended

Join date: 5 Jan 2007

Posts: 115

01-24-2008 00:47

I had the very same problem

then i cleaned the dust of my monitor and the beer splashes off my glasses

Voila!

Sings "I can see for miles and miles and milessssssss-a!"
Credos to The Who

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Cherry Czervik

Came To Her Senses

Join date: 18 Feb 2006

Posts: 3,680

01-24-2008 05:46

From: Archie Lukas

I had the very same problem

then i cleaned the dust of my monitor and the beer splashes off my glasses

Voila!

Sings "I can see for miles and miles and milessssssss-a!"
Credos to The Who

Stop it

That's twice you've made me laugh today. I get enough funny looks for smiling and looking happy in an office, never mind laughter!

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Hazy or Foggy Horizon
Solanghe Sarlo Gypsy Free Thinker Join date: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 644	01-23-2008 10:32 *Posted in Technical, no responses so I will try here.... Has anyone noticed that the SL horizon seems to be hazy or foggy? I noticed this about 6 days ago. I haven't changed any settings...my home is on a hill overlooking a beach and there is a definate haze in the sky and over the water; also as I look farther out. There is a lighthouse that used to be clearly visible, not I have to fly right up on it to see it. I have already tried toggling fog off. Anyone else notice this or knows what it is? Could it be an isolated problem on the Sim? It's definately not normal for me. _____________________ The key to a contented life: Figure out who you are, what you are, fix what you can and make peace with the rest.
Sally Silvera live music maniac Join date: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,325	01-23-2008 10:39 Hi Solanghe, You sure you haven't changed you draw distance? I accidentally did by only a tiny bit and it made a huge difference. Also.... what viewer are you using? _____________________
Solanghe Sarlo Gypsy Free Thinker Join date: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 644	01-23-2008 11:00 Hi Sally, My draw distance is always set at 64, I did check that. As for the viewer, I am using whatever the last update gave us. = ) This just started a few days ago. Weird. _____________________ The key to a contented life: Figure out who you are, what you are, fix what you can and make peace with the rest.
Kalderi Tomsen Nomad Extraordinaire! Join date: 10 May 2007 Posts: 888	01-23-2008 11:12 Damn I hate smog. Someone should put a stop to all this prim-pollution, I tell ya. _____________________ Kalderi, General Manager, Hosoi Ichiba and Hosoi Design - - - Hosoi Ichiba - High Quality Classically-styled Asian buildings, furniture and home decorations in an old-fashioned Japanese market garden on Japan Kanto. http://hosoi-ichiba.blogspot.com/ Hosoi Design - High Quality prefabs and furnishings, plus commercial buildings.
Solanghe Sarlo Gypsy Free Thinker Join date: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 644	01-23-2008 12:10 From: Kalderi Tomsen Damn I hate smog. Someone should put a stop to all this prim-pollution, I tell ya. Heh. I tell you that is exactly what it looks like Kal. Smog. I guess I'll call the sim owner and ask her about it. It's on my home sim, where my store is located (different sim) and various places in SL. So, it must be me, right? SL. Gotta love the weirdness. sighs _____________________ The key to a contented life: Figure out who you are, what you are, fix what you can and make peace with the rest.
Avion Raymaker Palacio del Emperador! Join date: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 980	01-23-2008 12:22 Solanghe, I believe I've noticed the same thing. When I lower my draw distance, I get fog at my self-imposed "horizon" that I don't remember seeing before. I thought it might have been an attempted enhancement. What I like about it is that it makes the end of your draw distance less abrupt. It also softens the appearance of your neighbors' builds.
Sally Silvera live music maniac Join date: 17 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,325	01-23-2008 12:38 Okidoki, Just tested this and the horizon does indeed go hazy or foggy or smoggy when I reduce my draw distance. Never noticed it before, but then I've had my draw distance crancked all the way up recently. Guess it's a feature . _____________________
Cherry Czervik Came To Her Senses Join date: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 3,680	01-23-2008 12:47 Yep that's normal. HOWEVER I've always quite liked that hazy look especially when the horizon is messy. If you use Windlight and mess about with the sky settings you can get a horizon effect that is pretty funky. My favourite setting shows azure seas which are more transparent than the norm, a slightly bluer sky and a slightly hazy blur between the two - looks like that "rim" of water you can see if you are looking at a whole horizon of water rl. Pretty! _____________________ To exchange power is sublime. To steal from another ... well, what goes around comes around.
Solanghe Sarlo Gypsy Free Thinker Join date: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 644	01-23-2008 12:58 From: Sally Silvera Okidoki, Just tested this and the horizon does indeed go hazy or foggy or smoggy when I reduce my draw distance. Never noticed it before, but then I've had my draw distance crancked all the way up recently. Guess it's a feature . Interesting. I guess LL just slipped that one in. Unless I missed it in the release notes. I hope I can see the lighthouse from my window again if I make an adjustment. Thanks for your help and responses guys. /me goes off to read the latest version release notes. _____________________ The key to a contented life: Figure out who you are, what you are, fix what you can and make peace with the rest.
Solanghe Sarlo Gypsy Free Thinker Join date: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 644	01-23-2008 13:02 From: Cherry Czervik Yep that's normal. HOWEVER I've always quite liked that hazy look especially when the horizon is messy. If you use Windlight and mess about with the sky settings you can get a horizon effect that is pretty funky. My favourite setting shows azure seas which are more transparent than the norm, a slightly bluer sky and a slightly hazy blur between the two - looks like that "rim" of water you can see if you are looking at a whole horizon of water rl. Pretty! Hmmm. That sounds nice, but you know I am kinda scared to try the windlight viewer. I have visions of a crash-tastic good time. Things are pretty stable for me at the moment so I'm afraid to do anything. LOL _____________________ The key to a contented life: Figure out who you are, what you are, fix what you can and make peace with the rest.
Ava Glasgow Hippie surfer chick Join date: 27 Jan 2007 Posts: 2,172	01-23-2008 22:50 In the regular (non-windlight) viewer, there is actually a second setting to control fog. Under the Advanced Graphics tab, there is something called "fog distance ratio". Raising that number will make the fog appear farther away, and lowering it will bring the fog closer.
Bradley Bracken Goodbye, Farewell, Amen Join date: 2 Apr 2007 Posts: 3,856	01-23-2008 22:53 Living in Los Angeles it just looked normal to me, but I just checked and you are right. It looks much more smoggy now than it did before. It doesn't really look like typical fog. _____________________ My interest in SL has simply died. Thanks for all the laughs
Solanghe Sarlo Gypsy Free Thinker Join date: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 644	01-23-2008 23:53 Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed it. Whew. It seems a bit clearer today though. _____________________ The key to a contented life: Figure out who you are, what you are, fix what you can and make peace with the rest.
Cherry Czervik Came To Her Senses Join date: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 3,680	01-24-2008 00:14 From: Ava Glasgow In the regular (non-windlight) viewer, there is actually a second setting to control fog. Under the Advanced Graphics tab, there is something called "fog distance ratio". Raising that number will make the fog appear farther away, and lowering it will bring the fog closer. Nice! Haven't tried messing with that yet (too busy pointing at the screen and going PRETTY!! like a moron). Solanghe, I have empathy re the crashtastic time - I find if I stay away from crowds it doesn't crash me so much. However, the crashes are at least drop to desktop rather than timing out. _____________________ To exchange power is sublime. To steal from another ... well, what goes around comes around.
Archie Lukas Transcended Join date: 5 Jan 2007 Posts: 115	01-24-2008 00:47 I had the very same problem then i cleaned the dust of my monitor and the beer splashes off my glasses Voila! Sings "I can see for miles and miles and milessssssss-a!" Credos to The Who _____________________ Archie Lukas "Just the facts ma'am" MI5
Cherry Czervik Came To Her Senses Join date: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 3,680	01-24-2008 05:46 From: Archie Lukas I had the very same problem then i cleaned the dust of my monitor and the beer splashes off my glasses Voila! Sings "I can see for miles and miles and milessssssss-a!" Credos to The Who Stop it That's twice you've made me laugh today. I get enough funny looks for smiling and looking happy in an office, never mind laughter! _____________________ To exchange power is sublime. To steal from another ... well, what goes around comes around.

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