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Fluf Fredriksson

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12-13-2007 16:37

Just a quick question before I de-rez for the night.

During the recent 7 hour+ SL downtime, I'd have expected "US$ Spent in SecondLife" to have dropped off really quite considerably. But looking at the Reuters graph for such things, it seems that between 800,000 and 900,000 USD was being spent in SecondLife consistently over the whole period?! I get the feeling I might be having a blonde moment here and the answer should be obvious but ....

You can see the Reuters graph here - http://secondlife.reuters.com/

Can anyone enlighten me as to how what and why?!
Many thanks in advance!

Lolita Pro

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12-14-2007 17:40

Maybe the Lindens were laundering money

JayDee Unknown

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12-14-2007 18:02

Maybe out of world trading on the Lindex. However that was supposed to be shut down to.

I have yet to see a number from LL that I would believe. They might technically be correct but not necessarily showing what they intend people to think they are for. Much like the:"Total Residents 11,403,402" stat.

Subtract alts and dead accounts and you have a lot less.

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Pie Psaltery

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12-14-2007 20:29

You don't still believe numbers generated by Linden Lab do you??

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Fluf Fredriksson

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12-15-2007 04:45

From: Pie Psaltery

You don't still believe numbers generated by Linden Lab do you??

Nope ... was looking at Reuters figures this time. Guess I should know better. But it does make you wonder if deducting about 850,000 from the figure on the chart gives you the real number.
I thought that if each point on the graph shows the USD spent over the last 24hrs, then the 7hr+ outage should have shown a steady drop at each data point over the time SL was down (rather than a sudden drop to zero). That I could have understood.
Shrugs. Guess we'll never know!

Uvas Umarov

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12-15-2007 07:06

I noticed that the lindex was restarted earlier than the grid as I recieved an email stating that one of my limit orders was filled while the grid was still down.

Now a normal day transfers 1.2 million and the grid was down for one third of the day, it seems reasonable that two thirds of the amount would transfer or approximaitely 800,000.

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Jessica Elytis

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12-15-2007 07:37

From: Pie Psaltery

You don't still believe numbers generated by Linden Lab do you??

BWAAAAhahahahahahhahahahahahaha!!!
*ahem* *cough*
Heehee *snicker* *cough*

*ahem*

Pie anyone?

~Jessy

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Dude, you are a true and good friend, and I love you like the brother that my mom claims she never had, but you are in fact acting like a flaming douche on white toast with a side order of dickknob salsa..maybe you should reconsider this course of action and we go find something else to do.

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12-15-2007 08:12

From: JayDee Unknown

Maybe out of world trading on the Lindex. However that was supposed to be shut down to.

"US$ Spent" is only a fictional number, it has no real meaning and isn't tied to the LindeX at all.

"US$ Spent" is the sum of all L$ transactions divided by the exchange rate. If someone hands you L$1.3 million and you hand it right back, "US$ Spent" increases by $10,000.

Tipjars, web stores like SLex and OnRez, games, vendors that refund or split proceeds, etc all artificially inflate the number (L$200 transaction as a tip + L$200 transaction when they log out of the tipjar) to the point where it's worthless.

Blake Dwi

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12-15-2007 09:25

I think Lolita hit it on the head!

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Day Oh

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12-15-2007 19:12

We have a leak of laughing gas in this thread? Is a conspiracy?

Tristin Mikazuki

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12-15-2007 21:27

From: Pie Psaltery

You don't still believe numbers generated by Linden Lab do you??

Does anyone? lol

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Uvas Umarov

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12-16-2007 06:52

From: Uvas Umarov

Now a normal day transfers 1.2 million and the grid was down for one third of the day, it seems reasonable that two thirds of the amount would transfer or approximaitely 800,000.

The number seems to be right where it should be...

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"On the other hand, if you are convinced that I spent all the money on a new sports car, then getting even 2.5% instead of 0% back would be quite a deal, wouldn't it?" ---ginko bank owner on his financial dealings

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12-16-2007 08:00

Funny number by funny people at LLABS. Its all VR numbers . Who in the *** knows it if true of not. But most likey it is.

Annabelle Babii

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12-16-2007 16:39

Even when the grid is down, the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus can still log in and run their landbots.

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Fluf Fredriksson Registered User Join date: 8 Feb 2007 Posts: 248	12-13-2007 16:37 Just a quick question before I de-rez for the night. During the recent 7 hour+ SL downtime, I'd have expected "US$ Spent in SecondLife" to have dropped off really quite considerably. But looking at the Reuters graph for such things, it seems that between 800,000 and 900,000 USD was being spent in SecondLife consistently over the whole period?! I get the feeling I might be having a blonde moment here and the answer should be obvious but .... You can see the Reuters graph here - http://secondlife.reuters.com/ Can anyone enlighten me as to how what and why?! Many thanks in advance!
Lolita Pro www.PhotosByLolita.com Join date: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 273	12-14-2007 17:40 Maybe the Lindens were laundering money
JayDee Unknown Registered User Join date: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 175	12-14-2007 18:02 Maybe out of world trading on the Lindex. However that was supposed to be shut down to. I have yet to see a number from LL that I would believe. They might technically be correct but not necessarily showing what they intend people to think they are for. Much like the:"Total Residents 11,403,402" stat. Subtract alts and dead accounts and you have a lot less. _____________________
Pie Psaltery runs w/scissors Join date: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 987	12-14-2007 20:29 You don't still believe numbers generated by Linden Lab do you?? _____________________
Fluf Fredriksson Registered User Join date: 8 Feb 2007 Posts: 248	12-15-2007 04:45 From: Pie Psaltery You don't still believe numbers generated by Linden Lab do you?? Nope ... was looking at Reuters figures this time. Guess I should know better. But it does make you wonder if deducting about 850,000 from the figure on the chart gives you the real number. I thought that if each point on the graph shows the USD spent over the last 24hrs, then the 7hr+ outage should have shown a steady drop at each data point over the time SL was down (rather than a sudden drop to zero). That I could have understood. Shrugs. Guess we'll never know!
Uvas Umarov Phone Weasel Advocate Join date: 8 Feb 2007 Posts: 622	12-15-2007 07:06 I noticed that the lindex was restarted earlier than the grid as I recieved an email stating that one of my limit orders was filled while the grid was still down. Now a normal day transfers 1.2 million and the grid was down for one third of the day, it seems reasonable that two thirds of the amount would transfer or approximaitely 800,000. _____________________ "On the other hand, if you are convinced that I spent all the money on a new sports car, then getting even 2.5% instead of 0% back would be quite a deal, wouldn't it?" ---ginko bank owner on his financial dealings
Jessica Elytis Goddess Join date: 7 Oct 2005 Posts: 1,783	12-15-2007 07:37 From: Pie Psaltery You don't still believe numbers generated by Linden Lab do you?? BWAAAAhahahahahahhahahahahahaha!!! ahem cough Heehee snicker cough ahem Pie anyone? ~Jessy _____________________ When your friend does somethign stupid: From: Aldo Stern Dude, you are a true and good friend, and I love you like the brother that my mom claims she never had, but you are in fact acting like a flaming douche on white toast with a side order of dickknob salsa..maybe you should reconsider this course of action and we go find something else to do.
Kitty Barnett Registered User Join date: 10 May 2006 Posts: 5,586	12-15-2007 08:12 From: JayDee Unknown Maybe out of world trading on the Lindex. However that was supposed to be shut down to. "US$ Spent" is only a fictional number, it has no real meaning and isn't tied to the LindeX at all. "US$ Spent" is the sum of all L$ transactions divided by the exchange rate. If someone hands you L$1.3 million and you hand it right back, "US$ Spent" increases by $10,000. Tipjars, web stores like SLex and OnRez, games, vendors that refund or split proceeds, etc all artificially inflate the number (L$200 transaction as a tip + L$200 transaction when they log out of the tipjar) to the point where it's worthless.
Blake Dwi Reading Daily... Join date: 6 Dec 2006 Posts: 105	12-15-2007 09:25 I think Lolita hit it on the head! HAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Day Oh Registered User Join date: 3 Feb 2007 Posts: 1,257	12-15-2007 19:12 We have a leak of laughing gas in this thread? Is a conspiracy?
Tristin Mikazuki Sarah Palin ROCKS! Join date: 9 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,012	12-15-2007 21:27 From: Pie Psaltery You don't still believe numbers generated by Linden Lab do you?? Does anyone? lol _____________________
Uvas Umarov Phone Weasel Advocate Join date: 8 Feb 2007 Posts: 622	12-16-2007 06:52 From: Uvas Umarov Now a normal day transfers 1.2 million and the grid was down for one third of the day, it seems reasonable that two thirds of the amount would transfer or approximaitely 800,000. The number seems to be right where it should be... _____________________ "On the other hand, if you are convinced that I spent all the money on a new sports car, then getting even 2.5% instead of 0% back would be quite a deal, wouldn't it?" ---ginko bank owner on his financial dealings
Usagi Musashi UM ™® Join date: 24 Oct 2004 Posts: 6,083	12-16-2007 08:00 Funny number by funny people at LLABS. Its all VR numbers . Who in the *** knows it if true of not. But most likey it is.
Annabelle Babii Unholier than thou Join date: 2 Jun 2007 Posts: 1,797	12-16-2007 16:39 Even when the grid is down, the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny, and Santa Claus can still log in and run their landbots.