height limit in traffic calculation?

hey!

is there a height limit in traffic calculation?
i have closed my sim for public (group access allowed) cos of rework, development, so far so good, im the only person on + 1 alt to make shapes/body parts, however, ....
when im workin on the floor (no alt logged in) "about land" shows traffic > 400
when im workin on a platform 600 meters up in the sky (alt logged in) "about land" shows traffic 0

sim landing point 501 meters up in the sky

machine:
intelmac c2d 2Ghz 1Gbram 128MbVram / osx 10.4.11 /slviewer 1.20.15

im on sim 24/7
private island/premium member/payment info used

any idea?

No, the boundaries of a parcel are of infinite height. Any traffic over the parcel counts.

hey!

thats what ive expected but it seems not to work for me this way
my island = 1 single region (1 single parcel)
on the platform im workin this way :
my alt standing on a posestand as my model
me sitting on a chair in front of him, making body parts, uploading textures and sounds, writing scripts, transfer parts to my alt

Did you only just close the sim? Traffic counts reset every 24 hours or so, so your traffic might be from yesterday? Also, I believe that land has to be deeded to group in order for everyone (including group owners) to register as traffic. (What I mean by this is that if your land is NOT deeded to group, then you as landowner will not contribute to your own traffic. The alt will.)

hey!

yes ive closed the sim for public access while im reworkin stuff, but group members can login. the land is set to group. permissions in options set to group only.
actually "show place in search" is deactivated.
day1 - i was alone on sim and worked on my platform traffic was 0
day2 - i have had group members visiting me, some chat but on the new platform traffic was 0
day3 - i was alone on sim and worked on the ground traffic was 471
day4 - i have logged in my alt and im workin with him on my platform in the sky traffic was 279
day5 - im workin with my alt on my platform in the sky traffic was 0
day6 - i have set landing point to the platform height, maybe thats the fault

traffic drops down when im on the platform only - when im on the islands ground everything works fine. ive never had problems with traffic_count before.

im on 24/7

I believe there is even though people say there is not. I have been having an obvious traffic count problem on my sim for about the past 2 months. I work at 700m in the sky and I am 99.9% positive my presence there is never logged. Sometimes I have several friends up there with me and we can stay for hours working and talking. After almost 2 months of being convinced something was not right, I divided my sim into 2 parts and blocked off avatar access on one end, worked on the floor..and the traffic increased, when I was 700m in the sky, it did not. There is definitely something wrong. I wonder if it is only affecting certain regions?

Right. All those traffic stats reflect the PREVIOUS 24 hours. You say the land is "set" to group. Is it DEEDED to group? Two completely different things.

hey!

it is NOT DEEDED to group and never was
on ground my single person (owner) makes ~700 traffic points per day
on platform me, my alt or friends (group members) make 0 traffic points per day

so there must be a height limit.

hey!

"good" to see others having a similar problem, i thought im stupid.

maybe a "feature" for nonbot noncamp parcels/regions/estates?

No, no..I thought I was too, it sounds impossible in a sense. But im pretty sure there is something going on, esp now since someone else is experiencing the same thing.

I wonder though, how high up is your platform? Mine was over 700m. Upon seeing your thread post I have moved mine down to just under 300 to see if that does anything.

I think there is more of a problem beyond just those high up not being calculated. I am on SL quite alot and I stay on my sim, I always have my mini map open and notice people coming in and out. I have not seen much of a decrease in green dots on my mini map, but my traffic never seems to budge much. I am just speculating this one, but I think something else is going on too. 2 months prior, for over a year, my traffic was constantly 10-15k. Overnight it dropped to the 5ks and have not changed since.

I wish traffic was not an issue but unfortunately, it is for many people.

hey!

my platform is at 600 meters, my sim_login_skybox_for_visitors (non group_members) at 500 meters. and a new game_playground should come at 600-650 meters cos of max. viewdist 512 meters.

most people dont stay long in the login_skybox so i cannot say if there is traffic counted
and traffic count on ground works fine for me (my playermodel) too.

a friend of mine has his club at 300 meters and his traffic count works, so maybe you can fix it with your new platform at 300 meters.

finally it doesnt really matter im not out for traffic - just curious
high trafficnumber in search means -> botplaces, campers, overcrowded areas, hell of lag and ugly sims

My workroom is at 500m and my traffic DOES count. So maybe that helps narrow down the ceiling some.

I think that altitude issues in general have been flaky lately (moreso that usual).

For the last couple of days if I TP from my skybox @2000M to the ground directly below, or vice versa, I get the "The region you have entered is running a different version ... yadd yadda ..." message.


*scratches head*

@ Darkness Anubis
yes its helpful to have proven values to nail down my "problem"

@ Xerxes Kingstop
strange this message in the same region, maybe you have teleported to the cpu in the serverrack above you

I did put it under 300 so I`ll see. I just can not help to believe there is more being miscalculated than myself. Because one persons traffic count would not put a huge a dent in traffic as I suddenly have been seeing.

What I meant by my traffic statement was that if you run a business, a lot of consumers *do* care about your traffic count. They will make up their mind about your business and your success based on your traffic count. So for the vain people out there, in regards to them shopping at your store, unfortunately your count has to be good or it damages you.

You = In general.

I personally would like to see traffic eradicated or changed. And right now, atleast on our sims, something is wrong with it.

hey!

im running traffictests now while im workin -> platform / floor and will post the results, as i know one person makes 800 - 900 trafficpoints / day

yes i know what you mean, but as long as traffic is gamed frank people are the losers, this way of socalled "business" is much to kiddin for me. botarmys are fightin trafficwars in hidden skyboxes
the business and trafficstuff would be worth to discuss about InWorld a sort of group for frank business/sim owners -> consumer protection, ...

just my 2 cents

I dont like the bots gaming traffic but at the same time I do not see anything wrong with a creator working in a box above thier shop. After all its a real person generating the traffic.

hey!


ive never said its wrong to stay in the buildarea above your shop, its the opposite, this way people can see the owner online and maybe IM when a problem comes up -> sort of customer service too.

hey maybe this is a way to make people who use bots high up bring them down so they are more visible to the 'customer'?

That is actually what I thought at one point, that maybe it was a new "feature" to battle those who hide masses of avatars up as high as you can go..... I know there are still shops actively using countless bots but I have not been to their sims to check how high up they are. Im guessing they probably are still 700M+ up and this issue is limited to a few sims..being a bug.

hey!

@ Dekka Raymaker
would make sense yes

@ Jesseaitui Petion
does your trafficcount work in + 300 meters?

so far so good the first stats after some more days testing
platform is in the sky +600 meters, so the platform is out of max. viewdistance (512) meters cos it simply looks ugly to have parts in the sky hanging round.

im island owner and group owner
my alt is groupmember only

me on the platform -> traffic 0
me and my alt on the platform traffic -> 853
me and my alt on ground -> traffic 1431

its doesnt matter if my traffic is counted on the platform or not it was confusing me while developing -> scripting myself to a ghost ?
i would like to have bots, but ai_bots to fight with -> quake3teamarena, wolfenstein et, a simple trafficbot is uselesss for me. but yes im nosey what will bots do when we dont watch em? will they have chat, will they have s.x, do they have to sleep, whats their favorite sim, whats their favorite shop, questions bout questions

Im not 100% sure, I would have to divide my sim up again to test it. that is something I do not want to do right now, I am not able to get onto SL as often at the moment. I am still positive something is wrong, though. You can not have 8-15 people on your sim at any given time (significantly more on a release day) and end up with a traffic count of 5k, just 2 months ago and prior I have had the same amount of people coming in and out, and the traffic was closer to 15k (As stated in a previous post). Nothing is making sense. Not to turn this into something personal but someone even suggested that perhaps somebody "behind the scenes" possibly is friends with a competing resident. Maybe I`ll open a concierge chat and see what they have to say but my guess is.. "Everything looks fine to me." Well, it isn`t. I am positive, as are you, that there is something wrong the higher up you go, but I am also convinced that something is not quite right down on the ground either. Obviously this is not a grid-wide problem.


How long are you leaving both accounts logged on?

On my friends vacant sim if 2 of us are there for awhile it hits just under 2k the next day, we are in a skybox, I believe it to be about 500-600m up. My sim wont even log that anymore. I have not seen my traffic go much over 6k regardless of if there are 5 people on the sim or 20.

hey!

its a 24 hours statistics and im on 24/7 without logout
ie. day6/12amptd - day7/12amptd = 24h = me and my alt on ground -> traffic 1431

when ive noticed first i thought LindenLab has reduced the height cos of trafficbots. some times ago there was a tread running bout gaming the traffic and botplaces.

yesterday ive added another alt at 700 meters and her traffic counts
day7/12amptd - day8/12amptd:
me and my alt on ground + alt2 on a platform(+700m) -> traffic 2135

at this point i will stop this test, as a resume i can say me isnt counted at height >= 600, my alts are counted height_independet. my 2nd gamelevel will come at 600 meters cos of maxdrawdistance 512.
my sim is a private combatsim (ctf / lmst) without shops, i do not need traffic for "best ranking" -> actually "show place in search" is dissabled.

Interesting information indeed. Thank you for the chat!

Heh, when I first saw the title of this thread, I thought the question would be whether child AVs were counted in traffic calculations.