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3Ring Binder
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Join date: 8 Mar 2007
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07-03-2008 13:11
so.... i put a little side store in a popular mall. then Tuesday happened. i was dinged L$33 for group fees. i am not pleased. especially after... well..... i am not pleased.  if i leave the group, will my stuff be removed from that store? or is it still cool... as in, once it's placed, it stays? anyone know?
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Annabelle Babii
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07-03-2008 13:14
once placed, it stays. However, you won't be able to put new stuff out.
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3Ring Binder
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07-03-2008 13:14
ok. thanks.
i'm gonna let it expire anyway. NOT ONE VISITOR. not one.
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Ciaran Laval
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07-03-2008 13:15
Technically it shouldn't be removed, you just won't be able to place anything else. Whether or not they insist you're a member of a group is another matter.
How big is this place if you're being dinged for that amount? Are there parcels galore there?
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3Ring Binder
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07-03-2008 13:15
it's a place with lots of shops.
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Avion Raymaker
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07-03-2008 13:38
From: Ciaran Laval
How big is this place if you're being dinged for that amount? Are there parcels galore there?
The group may have land deeded to it all over SL, well beyond this space. The fishy part is that to advertise a parcel is 30L. So you're paying more than your share of what it costs to advertise 1 parcel. Even though it's a small amount, it seems shady in principle. It would be to your advantage to advertise all the parcels individually if that actually worked, but evidently it doesn't. It's also frustrating that the group role defaults to sharing liability. I charged tenants for weeks when I was new. I saw the charge in my transactions, but had no idea it was charging everyone until one of my friends told me about it. I feel that should be changed. It's an obscure and strange enough concept, a lot of people simply don't realize they're doing it. |
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3Ring Binder
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07-03-2008 14:00
From: Avion Raymaker The group may have land deeded to it all over SL, well beyond this space. The fishy part is that to advertise a parcel is 30L. So you're paying more than your share of what it costs to advertise 1 parcel. Even though it's a small amount, it seems shady in principle.
It would be to your advantage to advertise all the parcels individually if that actually worked, but evidently it doesn't.
It's also frustrating that the group role defaults to sharing liability. I charged tenants for weeks when I was new. I saw the charge in my transactions, but had no idea it was charging everyone until one of my friends told me about it. I feel that should be changed. It's an obscure and strange enough concept, a lot of people simply don't realize they're doing it. my space is not on its own parcel. you must happen by, to see my things. they are not really latex and bikini and sexy so they don't raelly fit in. i thot maybe.... i was wrong.
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Yosef Okelly
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07-03-2008 14:16
Have you tried setting the land for sale? I think 4L$ per square meter is the current land bot price.
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3Ring Binder
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07-03-2008 14:16
From: Yosef Okelly Have you tried setting the land for sale? I think 4L$ per square meter is the current land bot price. evil! LOL
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Faithless Babii
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07-03-2008 14:24
3 ring, Im at the same mall..and got charged the same 33L. I sent the owner a note and she messaged me right back, appologising for the error in how she set up the group and refunded the 33L.
I dont think she intended to be "sneaky" at all about the charge- I genuinely believe it was an error on her part, which , once she was made aware of, changed straight away
Hope this helps
Fai x
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3Ring Binder
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07-03-2008 14:42
From: Faithless Babii 3 ring, Im at the same mall..and got charged the same 33L. I sent the owner a note and she messaged me right back, appologising for the error in how she set up the group and refunded the 33L.
I dont think she intended to be "sneaky" at all about the charge- I genuinely believe it was an error on her part, which , once she was made aware of, changed straight away
Hope this helps
Fai x thank you for saying. i rescind my cynical snarkiness. i was rather surprised actually. upon chat, she was delightful. i felt the fool when i saw this transaction. i feel much better now, and owe her an apology. also, edited out all comments of a derogatory manner.
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Jojogirl Bailey
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07-04-2008 08:01
Yes, please work with the land owner...I have had the group settings change back after SL weirdness and i only know if folks are getting charged if someone tells me.
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Joss Noel
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Join date: 25 Mar 2007
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07-04-2008 20:11
I kept charging my tenants group liability in error, and had to keep refunding them back - it was only L$3 each but that's not the point. I checked all the boxes, and all was set correctly. I scratched my head for weeks!!
Turns out that although I had cleared the box for group liabilities in the resident's role, there is a sneaky Everyone role, and the box was still checked there, so everyone was getting charged!!
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Butch Adzebills
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Join date: 21 Oct 2006
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07-09-2008 05:40
For future note, in some malls, etc if you leave the group, they'll assume you no longer want to be there and return your things.
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HoneyBear Lilliehook
Owner, The Mall at Cherry
Join date: 18 Jun 2007
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07-09-2008 08:05
From: Joss Noel I kept charging my tenants group liability in error, and had to keep refunding them back - it was only L$3 each but that's not the point. I checked all the boxes, and all was set correctly. I scratched my head for weeks!!
Turns out that although I had cleared the box for group liabilities in the resident's role, there is a sneaky Everyone role, and the box was still checked there, so everyone was getting charged!! Yep, did the same thing the other day when I set up my new tenant group. Totally an accident...but happened nonetheless.
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07-09-2008 08:19
I thought group fees were 30L? Or is it 30L per parcel the group has? The group I have my store land on is all one large parcel and each week the other owner of the group and I each get charged 15L. Last week I won an auction for a parcel right next to mine and had set it to group but didn't join it (actually it wouldn't let me join it right after the auction ended...which was weird). When group fees came around I was charged 30L, I haven't asked my business partner what she was charged....I just thought it was strange. So if it is 30L per parcel then makes sense. The new parcel that was not joined was not set to show in search, so I know the fee wasn't from that.
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