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Jinnywitha Cleanslate
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Join date: 31 Jan 2007
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03-29-2008 05:09
Hi there, I logged on in my friends house. As a joke, last night, he built a shrine to me, as a result of a comment that his Ex made.
Earlier on in the month this woman he was seeing, showered me with pictures of him and her...errr.....well...anyway - I was really disappointed in her as it was not exactly a classy move - particularly as the man in question was just a very close friend. I told her that, but she still took her revenge on him, and as a result they split.
Anyway - I log on today, in his house, and suddenly am caged. I usually handle these things ok, you know - sit on cage - stand up and walk away, or simply re-log and carry on - no problem. No hassle, just a bit childish. This cage is different. Its called the Iron Cage. I can't walk - can't TP out. Can't move. If I sit on it - I get ejected to the underside of the edge of the Island, then I need to re-log. When I re-log on, I sit on someone's random poseball, and stand and walk again. Still can't TP. If I don't re-log, then when approaching the property the cage catches me again trapping me.
If I go near the property, and keep moving, within a certain radius, the cage nudges me up and off the boundary line of his property and stops. If I go onto his porch, it traps me and I can't move again.
All around me NO ENTRY lines appear and disappear, but they don't stop me from walking anywhere, with pop-ups that say you aren't allowed to enter, and they are only there when the cage is chasing me as I have to keep moving.
If I log completely off - even re-boot the computer - then I still come back inside the cage.
The owner of the cage, was listed in the Edit function, so I IM'd them - they were online but did log off later. The creator has made a great security system, but clearly it has fallen into wrong hands.
The Ex moved off the island, but is still listed in the group list. Could it be her ? She is offline at the moment.
There are no staff members connected to the land online, and I really needed to be somewhere in SL this morning. My friend logged on and he can't do anything with it either.
Has anyone any suggestions what to do ?
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Maggie McArdle
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03-29-2008 05:13
im the creator again and explain it exactly as you did here. then check to see who owns the system(not the creator) and AR it/them.
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bilbo99 Emu
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03-29-2008 05:15
I'm not sure what you can do about this security device but if you simply need to get into SL somewhere else, you need to open preferences, tick 'show start position' and when you login, select another sim?
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Qie Niangao
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03-29-2008 05:20
Umm. So, this cage, you need to right click and edit it to find out who the owner is. That's the person you need to contact to make it go away. Or AR them if they won't remove it immediately.
But if it's really just a cage (lame damned idea, these cages), it can't follow a TP out of the sim. (Well... technically, it might make it to a neighboring sim, but not further than that.) As long as wherever you have to be isn't in the sim with the cage, you should be able to escape it.
Now, if it's an attachment, not really a cage, then you should be able to just detach it. But that would be kinda obvious, so probably it's just one of those same lame cages every beginning scripter thinks would be cool to make.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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03-29-2008 05:20
From: Jinnywitha Cleanslate can't TP out There's nothing in LSL which can possibly stop you TPing. What happens when you try to TP?
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Ordinal Malaprop
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03-29-2008 05:22
From: Ordinal Malaprop There's nothing in LSL which can possibly stop you TPing. What happens when you try to TP? That is to say, with the standard client. It may well be possible to stop people TPing with something like RestrainedLife, but I imagine it would have been mentioned if that was being used.
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Jinnywitha Cleanslate
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03-29-2008 05:27
Just realised - it can only be the Ex and her alt....please tell me if you think I am just being paranoid!
No-one else knew I am connected to that property. The island is nearly always empty when I go there, which really isn't that often.
The name he used on the picture inside his house, is not my full name, so someone would have had to search through 4 page's of variations of my name.
They would have had to search each and every profile, and I haven't updated my profile with new pics of him (there is only one very old one of him anyway) or me - only common trait is that I am a big girl.
I am not in his profile and never have been. We aren't even in same groups, so I can't be connected in that way.
There is nothing in the house that belongs to me, so no object would have given Roxxx my name.
I have no enemies in SL.
Roxxx (the owner of the cage) was created shortly after they started seeing each other.
I have never bought ANYONE to the house, or even told them where the house is - we're just friends, I never had any reason to tell anyone.
I am not listed in the Groups list.
The only time the trouble occurs is when he did something in reference to something she made a comment on.
He banned her on the night she had her go at us both, and so an alt would be needed to get in. The only person that has entered the house since this thing was built - is his Ex.
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Jinnywitha Cleanslate
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03-29-2008 05:35
If I try to Tp out - it goes through the motions then fails the Tp.
If i set the new location and log out as suggested by Bilbo - i still end up there
Checked worn for the attachment - nothing there not familiar
Checked transparency view for I don't know what - nothing abnormal there
Err...ok - probably a newbie question but what is 'AR' ?
I have had no mention of restrained life, and I never accept anything from people I don't know - not even friendship offers.
This one has me totally stumped! I suppose it's interesting....I just find it annoying that I couldn't keep to my promises, that I logged in this morning to do.
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Jinnywitha Cleanslate
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03-29-2008 05:38
Doh ! AR = Abuse Report! lol
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2k Suisei
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03-29-2008 05:40
From: Jinnywitha Cleanslate
Am I jumping to conclusions ?
No, the ex is clearly an evil witch and we the jury of Residents Answers find her guilty and have decided that she should be drowned in the local duck pond followed by a good olde burning at the stake. Happy?
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Maggie McArdle
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03-29-2008 05:40
AR= Abuse Report, i think its under tools, not sure, but be sure to include a screen shot if you have to go that route. as for the tp filing that could be SL and the failed tp(teleport) glitch.
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Jinnywitha Cleanslate
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03-29-2008 05:45
Hahahaa - thanks 2k Suisei!
Actually I was kinda hoping I am paranoid....lol - that way it would mean that I wouldn't be wrong about originally thinking she was a nice person.....if it is her - then I am very wrong about my first impressions...and I really hate thinking the worst about people.
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Ordinal Malaprop
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03-29-2008 05:46
If you don't know what RestrainedLife is, you aren't using it, don't worry. (For the record, it is a special client for people who are into BDSM in SL, which prevents you from doing certain things at certain times.) From: Jinnywitha Cleanslate If I try to Tp out - it goes through the motions then fails the Tp. That could just be the grid being unreliable - but you definitely should be able to _log in_ wherever you like. Can I just make sure that you're doing exactly the right thing? 1. Close SL and open it again. 2. From the login screen, if there isn't a box with "Start Location:" next to it, press CTRL+P, go to the General tab and tick "Show Start Location on Login Screen". Then click OK. 3. In the box, type in "Ahern" (for example) 4. Click "Connect". You should end up in a place full of odd people talking absolute rubbish, much like the forums to be honest.
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Qie Niangao
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03-29-2008 05:53
From: Jinnywitha Cleanslate If I try to Tp out - it goes through the motions then fails the Tp.
If i set the new location and log out as suggested by Bilbo - i still end up there Something is very confused here. If TPs fail (like, you go to the Map, find some distant sim, and TP into it at random--and that doesn't work), then it's an SL borkenness. Now, I can just barely imagine some unholy combination of cage and sim-crashing griefer script that could render the sim incapable of letting you TP out, but that would be one where the Creator of the script would get permabanned, so I kinda doubt that's what's at work here. My guess is the sim is just broken. (One hint: try to TP to the Mainland. Island-to-Island TPs are always a bit dicier than anywhere-to-Mainland.) But I don't think I'm understanding this right, anyway. If you do what was suggested by Bilbo (and now, Ordinal, too): logout, change preferences before logging back in so you can set the login region, then typing in a different region as the start location, *then* connecting)... and if that still starts you out back in the same sim... then somehow you have a very broken (or special) *client*. That just should work. So I think I'm not understanding.
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Snowman Jiminy
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03-29-2008 06:32
From: Jinnywitha Cleanslate Hahahaa - thanks 2k Suisei!
Actually I was kinda hoping I am paranoid....lol - that way it would mean that I wouldn't be wrong about originally thinking she was a nice person.....if it is her - then I am very wrong about my first impressions...and I really hate thinking the worst about people. I would go with Bilbo99's solution. Simply select a different region to log in to. Then all you need to do is not go back there. Sorted. 
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Jinnywitha Cleanslate
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Join date: 31 Jan 2007
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03-29-2008 06:37
Wooo-hooooo!!!! I am free! It took 5 attempts, one after another, to get out by logging and re-logging and trying the methods suggested by changing the start location. I think it must be the Sim that is broken not letting me TP out. Though I don't get why it would let others TP in and out. My friend said the cage is pitched outside his house awaiting my return...we shall name our new 'pet' with accompanying thunder cloud, soon. Hahahahaha! Anyway - thanks for all your help and advice  Have a great weekend! 
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cinda Hoodoo
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All drama aside...
03-29-2008 06:57
If your or your friend are in the group, left click, delete object, bingo its gone and over. Unless your just really into all this, have Xchicky and all her alts banned from the site..
Sorry i'm just land lady with not alot of patience for this type of nonsense.
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Jinnywitha Cleanslate
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03-29-2008 07:07
Cindy - believe me we tried that. 2 other Island residents tried it as well....it didn't work. Nevermind - it's over now and I can get on with my Second Life. Thanks again everyone! 
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Lindal Kidd
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03-29-2008 09:42
Jinny,
You might consider editing your user preferences (User CP, upper left of the forum window) to allow folks to send you private messages.
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Kira Cuddihy
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03-29-2008 10:48
If it is a private island with residents renting then the Estate owner probably has to delete it.
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Gummi Richthofen
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03-29-2008 11:50
For the last few days, several places that I visit have displayed the "can't log out" behaviour you describe. Not all of them; just some. I suspect it was a specific problem with a certain group/type of sim, and unrelated to either your spat, or the prowess of the makers of the cage-thingy.
(the fact that it's only just apparently fighted itself after a holiday week and a rolling restart may be a guide here)
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Kidd Krasner
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03-29-2008 12:05
From: Jinnywitha Cleanslate It took 5 attempts, one after another, to get out by logging and re-logging and trying the methods suggested by changing the start location. I think it must be the Sim that is broken not letting me TP out. Though I don't get why it would let others TP in and out.
Problems with teleporting out are usually related to the place you're going, or to the connection between the target sim and the sim you're currently in. Hence other people who were successful at teleporting away were going to different sims than you were.
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Ricardo Harris
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03-29-2008 15:19
Log out and return 'home' or type in another place. Or go to events on these forums and find any place there and tp from these forums to whatever place you chose. Obviously, you can't tp to last place you was at so change it there before coming in to sl.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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03-29-2008 21:41
I think that when you want to start SL in a new location you can probably just exit SL, type secondlife://ahern into your browsers address bar and press enter
You can make bookmarks in your browser for all the places you might want to start at.
secondlife://waterhead/128/40/ would be the format for the bookmark url
If a cage is extra tricky in escaping from, and you are in a place you can rez objects at, then you can rez an object (outside the cage) with a sit target and sit on it and you will be out of the cage. We all have an object called "basic chair" in our library folder that works fine.
If you don't want to load a browser and are using windows just do Start Run, type secondlife://simname/xxx/yyy/zzz/ and press enter. replace simname and xxx and yyy and zzz appropriately.
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