The Shopping Cheater

I'm sure it happened to any of you that runs a store.. but it still fun, especially because the person this case was a 2006 avatar, it doesn't mean nothing.. but she wasn't sure a noobz with a creative way to solve the no-money drama.
Get some laugh.
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|9:30| Shop Laptop: (2008-05-30) (Customer): Ive bought this violin and its not working, could you help please?

|9:31| Customer: Hi...
|9:31| You: re
|9:32| You: lemme see pls
|9:32| Customer: see?
|9:32| Customer: It wont let me do anything...

|9:32| Customer: Im really sorry.. maybe im just being stupid or something?

|9:32| You: i don't think so
|9:32| You: w8 i check myself
|9:33| Violin Arch Beerbaum *wear me*: Song List Loading...
|9:33| Violin Arch Beerbaum *wear me*: 3 Songs Available.
|9:33| Violin Arch Beerbaum *wear me*: Sound List Loading...
|9:33| Violin Arch Beerbaum *wear me*: 29 Sounds Available.
|9:33| Violin Arch Beerbaum *wear me*: Please wait while performing Song preload...
|9:33| You: it is working.. so far... (preloading...)
|9:33| Violin Arch Beerbaum *wear me*: Song Preload complete. Playing: MINUET.
|9:33| You: hum all fine here

|9:34| Customer: thats so strange....

|9:34| You: please tell me what u do.. i mean....
|9:34| You: you "wear" it ?
|9:34| Customer: right click wear.. like all other stuff..
|9:34| You: and it doesn't appear ?
|9:34| Customer: no....
|9:34| You: both the violin and the arch ?
|9:34| You: ok does it says: "the current spot...."
|9:34| You: or something similar ?
|9:34| Customer: just gives me some silly stuff about not being in the database??
|9:35| You: don't worry the violin is copy
|9:35| Customer: ive tryed that with other stuff as well...
|9:35| You: so if it's happened something strange i can give you another
|9:35| You: just lemme keep the transaction log
|9:35| You: did u purchased it today ?
|9:36| Customer: no... a long time ago... maybe I messed up my inventory so badly, I deletede something...?

|9:36| Customer: you know.. girls and that inventory....

|9:36| You: no it's impossible... it's possible that your inventory on th server got corrupted
|9:36| You: tell me the approx date pls ?
|9:36| You: do u remember the month ?
|9:36| Customer: no.. not at all.. ive been away from SL in about 8 month or so?
|9:37| You: ok gimme 2 minutes
|9:37| Customer: Im really sorry... Im not trying to cheat you or anything... just dont get it..
|9:37| You: i know don't worry... i have my procedures so i don't have to trust ppl
|9:38| You: do u remember if you purchased it from the main store here? ....
|9:38| Customer: might have.. did you change the place by any chance?
|9:38| You: no but i run other places too
|9:38| You: but u bought it inworld correct ?
|9:39| Customer: yes..
|9:40| You: sry for the waiting
|9:40| Customer: Np...
|9:40| Customer: you have to check a lot of orders im sure..
|9:43| You: i've checked all my orders.. and i don't find you uH!
|9:43| You: how's possible
|9:43| Customer: I dont know...?
|9:43| You: it was before december? november? ...
|9:43| Customer: thinking.....
|9:43| You: and u sure it was one of my violin? lol
|9:43| Customer: I stopped playing SL about 8-9 mounts ago.... or so....
|9:43| Customer: hmmmm........
|9:43| Customer: pretty sure? lol
|9:44| You: ok right click on the violin and do > Properties
|9:44| You: read the creator name ..
|9:44| Customer: Vittorio..?
|9:45| Customer: oh.. thats you.. lol

|9:45| Customer: great going Nell...

|9:45| Customer: try looking at the dudes name.... doh..
|9:45| You: ok and above the Owner you read: "Actuired:"
|9:45| You: and the date
|9:45| You: *Acquired
|9:45| You: may u tell me the date pls .. so i can speed up the check

|9:46| Customer: Aug. 2007

|9:46| You:
|9:46| You: did u flet in a worm hole then?
|9:46| You: i mean are u travelling into the past and the future?
|9:46| You: since i've born in may

|9:46| You: and at august 2007 i didn't run any store

|9:47| Customer: Oohhhh......
|9:47| Customer: well that might explaine a lot....
|9:47| You: but nice try indeed.. eheh
|9:47| You: i mean u were gonna have a violin freee!
|9:48| You: i were going to give it to you without checking since my time costs more than the violin.. but i wanted to check

|9:48| Customer: hmmm.... a bit blushed here......

|9:48| You: anyway do you need any other help ?

|9:48| Customer: no...... you wanna shoot me now?

|9:49| You: why? u costed me just 5 minutes
|9:49| You: so cheers and bye
|9:49| Customer: bye

Wow. The things people do to save a buck

Don't be so sure...

I've seen those dates be wrong before.

lol... i know it's a long log... but well read it.

same here I have seen those dates be totally off

for example I have some stuff that says 2000 as date aquired....

Yeah, but at the end the guy pretty much admits it was a scam.

He was almost apologetic about it, in fact - I'd expect such a person to just TP away quickly as soon as he was outed. A curious fellow!

I had the "Date Acquired" on a contract, actually be 4 months off.

I also have to ask.. is this item transferrable? is it possible that she was given it as a gift or bought it used?

I also have to ask.. is this item transferrable? is it possible that she was given it as a gift or bought it used?

What dakota said, it's not just because of the acquired data but:

- I log the sales, *ALL* of them (all channels). From the start of my activity, every single transaction is there, and she was not there.
- She admitted to have stopped playing SL for 8-9 months... when i've not only started my activity 7 months ago, but i've made that product at the start of this year.
- The problem reported was an: unable to rez. It is a common problem to lose something from your inventory, but it's not so often that the item name remains into your inventory but the retrieving from the asset fails (usually it disappear from your inventeory as well).
- At the end she admitted the cheat... that's why i said to read the whole log.

Oh yeah and the item was no transfer, so she totally tried it. Now that item isn't so cheap, but we're not talking about millions, it's 950 linden, and you are using an "old" av so i guess you have a social activity around you, the potential shame of doing this doesn't rewards in the end... but looking at Winona Ryder robbing (more than one time...) the merchandise in the shops, it doesn't "shock" me anymore.

lol,I just send people a a new copy if they have any issues.I do not get it......

Last year I was posting on here how I had built a nice database for all my in world transactions and could generate lots of interesting reports plus type in the name of an Av and get a list of everything they ever purchased from me not to mention links to all their previous chat logs etc. Poeple told me I was a 'Sad Bastard' and needed to get a life, but this system helps me detect fraudsters in an instant and to support my customer more efficiently. Anyone who sells in SL should keep business records, just common sense. 4 years on I have now sold objects to over 4000 different avatars and without this system I would be lost if someone popped up and said that they had accidently deleted something they bought in 2005. Now I can bring up a list of everything they ever bought from me or my alts plus review all past conversations.

Maybe usually, but certainly not always--it's happened to me recently both with something I bought, and with something created and passed between alts. (In this case, though, it clearly doesn't apply, since the "customer" pretty much admitted at the end that s/he was working a scam, and you had complete records for copy-perm--presumably no-transfer--sales.)

It is kinda disappointing that somebody who's been a resident for a year and a half or more--even if they "stopped playing 8-9 months ago"--would still be scamming for a violin at this late date.

Why?

Please don't forget that if you are a "consumer" user, your economic situation doesn't improve over time. This strikes me as a very unfortunate problem.

Sending a "new" copy means having an old one... not in this case.

In fact i've wrote: "...not so often".



Correct, admission apart, logs apart, the item were no transfer.



I would have pleased to replace it if it were malfunction, i offer a "lifetime" warranty and free updates.. so it's ok, im more surprise since you don't see frequently "old" avatars cheating that way.

Right, I know. I only mentioned it because there seemed to have been a rash of this problem a couple weeks back. And of course not relevant to the current situation. But others with less complete records, etc., might get legitimate problem reports with these symptoms, so thought it was worth noting. (During the apparent peak of asset borkenness, I replaced a transfer item without even trying to check purchase history; can't just keep doing that as a matter of policy, though, I guess.)Yeah, that's what I thought, but Yumi disagrees. Dunno. Maybe I'm just naive to suppose that one eventually either leaves or groks how the economy works--in which case scamming for product isn't just dishonest, but desperately pathetic.

I'm sad to say, there are many people who do indeed "grok how the economy works", but figure that since it doesn't work for them, why shouldn't they try to smash it, or play it every way they can? Some even have the attitude that the creators get to make whatever they like AND not have to pay US$ for things so why shouldn't they be due for some payback? (Not that I agree, but it's out there!)

I doubt that many of the people selling intercepted textures are novices, for instance...