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Circumstantial Concierge Support?

Okiphia Rayna
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12-05-2007 10:39
Well... My current tier is 75 USD, which.. I don't want it to be, which is the reason for the need for support (More than just tiering down is needed...dont ask, that bits long lol) so I don't have the 100 a month for concierge support, however, i do for quarterly... does that count?

Also, I've spent over 700 USD in the last month or so, so can that count somehow?

I put in a ticket 3 days ago and it isn't being answered.. I need it answered fast =/

So the chat support would be better I think? Or something.. but I can't without the concierge level can I?
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Cherry Czervik
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12-05-2007 11:01
Premium accounts can get chat support ... just keep going through 'My answer is not here' if your answer is not there ...

Phone = Concierge. Sorry, but neither you or I are Concierge.
Okiphia Rayna
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12-05-2007 11:03
From: Cherry Czervik
Premium accounts can get chat support ... just keep going through 'My answer is not here' if your answer is not there ...

Phone = Concierge. Sorry, but neither you or I are Concierge.

aha...thought chat was concierge only, thanks ^_^
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Max Pitre
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12-05-2007 11:54
Hell, We're at the concierge tier and still don't get tickets answered. Chat is a hit or miss thing and works well when it's a hit and it's about a griefer.

I did have a long personal talk a few days ago with Kyle Linden on the phone and he did listen to the issue, was empathetic and took his time to help then he did update the 2 week old ticket so kudos to him.

I doubt he realized it but he also gave me some insight to the people that worked at LL and what they do in SL on a personal level without their Linden last names on.
Cherry Czervik
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12-05-2007 11:55
From: Max Pitre
Hell, We're at the concierge tier and still don't get tickets answered. Chat is a hit or miss thing and works well when it's a hit and it's about a griefer.

I did have a long personal talk a few days ago with Kyle Linden on the phone and he did listen to the issue, was empathetic and took his time to help then he did update the 2 week old ticket so kudos to him.

I doubt he realized it but he also gave me some insight to the people that worked at LL and what they do in SL on a personal level without their Linden last names on.


Yep ... this is definitely the case :) So before slagging off "bloody Lindens" here ...
Jake Ansett
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12-05-2007 13:10
Concierge Support is very responsive. Tickets are slow, but Phone and chat support is top notch. It is too bad they can't provide that level of support below the Concierge level but I guess that would come at too much of a cost...
FD Spark
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12-05-2007 13:14
Hey did you lower your tier from your account page? You have to do that. If you don't lower your tier you will continue pay the higher tier.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-05-2007 15:43
I thought you only pay the tier for the amount of land you actually hold (or have donated to a group somewhere)
no matter what you have your tier set at on the account page.

It only is based on what you actually hold that month
(and again I repeat hold, includes tier donated to any groups, so be sure to take back your tier from groups if you are trying to tier down)
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Okiphia Rayna
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12-05-2007 16:26
From: FD Spark
Hey did you lower your tier from your account page? You have to do that. If you don't lower your tier you will continue pay the higher tier.

its more complex than this ;)

Myissue is involving a tier up based on fault by LL (kinda)
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-05-2007 16:32
From: Okiphia Rayna
its more complex than this ;)

Myissue is involving a tier up based on fault by LL (kinda)



the thing is you should not be paying tier for anything other than tier you are using, be it land held, or donated to a group
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Okiphia Rayna
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12-05-2007 16:38
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
the thing is you should not be paying tier for anything other than tier you are using, be it land held, or donated to a group

But I am, and never intended to be. My tier up was caused by lack of information regarding changes to the auction system.

I won an auction, and had been told by various residents that I would claim it, and it was my understanding it would just be buying it essentially (The price being the bid or 0L$ was varied between sources). I checked the database and didn't learn any differently. If this had been the case (As it used to be) I would have been able to buy it for my group that owns all of my land. Unfortunately.. that isn't what happened. The land would have brought me perfectly within my tier had I been able to buy for my group, but as I couldn't it tiered me up. I have under 10000m of land when with my old tier I could have just over 10000m (Also using the free 512 from an alt premie).

So.. I tiered up because they changed how it worked without letting the information out. I'm trying to see if they would reimburse me and tier me down, as I am not using any of the extra 8000m of tier. If I can' get the money back then I may have to do an additional tier down, losing most of my land.. which I can't do, too much on it ;) lol

I've spent well over 1000 USD since I started SL, and I know my limits on how much, and stay just perfectly within them.. this takes me beyond that limit.

So there's my issue.. and I'm hoping so very much it can get fixed.
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-05-2007 17:04
I have not tried the auction for land thing so you completely lost me there
heh

if the land is now in your group then it should auto tier down the following month

only charging you for land you actually have (or have donated to a group)

I am sure you understand how that all works, being you own land

again sorry I can not help, I got totally lost with the auction thing, I have never done that
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Okiphia Rayna
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12-05-2007 17:06
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
I have not tried the auction for land thing so you completely lost me there
heh

if the land is now in your group then it should auto tier down the following month

only charging you for land you actually have (or have donated to a group)

I am sure you understand how that all works, being you own land

again sorry I can not help, I got totally lost with the auction thing, I have never done that

lol ill say it like this:

I was forced by LL to buy for myself instead of my group, where all my tier is, thereby causing a tier up. I can't afford to pay for it even one month, so trying to get it fixed
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-05-2007 17:19
From: Okiphia Rayna
lol ill say it like this:

I was forced by LL to buy for myself instead of my group, where all my tier is, thereby causing a tier up. I can't afford to pay for it even one month, so trying to get it fixed

if the tier was not being used by the group at that time, you could have removed it from the group before you purchased

is there a reason you did not do that?
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Okiphia Rayna
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12-05-2007 17:24
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
if the tier was not being used by the group at that time, you could have removed it from the group before you purchased

is there a reason you did not do that?


I only have this much because of the group bonus. I use the group bonus for land ^_^ I'm on the 8192 tier..or was before the unneeded tier up
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-05-2007 17:31
ah it is becoming clearer now
damn that sucks
so with auctions you can not buy the land you win, for a group, has to be purchased to yourself?

weird

I think I would have contacted linden before making the purchase, and see about taking some of the tier from the group, for a short time to buy the land then donating it all back to the group

sorry this happened to you, hopefully they can help you
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12-05-2007 17:31
From: Rhaorth Antonelli
if the tier was not being used by the group at that time, you could have removed it from the group before you purchased

is there a reason you did not do that?


Based on what Okiphia has said, the reason she didn't do it is basicaly because the KB and other residents told her she didn't have to -- she won an auction and intended to put the land directly into her group (Buy for group) but LL changed the rules and put it into her personal account and tiered her up without warning.

You know in world when you buy land that makes you tier up you get a warning first that you're about to tier up. She didn't get the chance to deal with the issue before tiering up because LL did it for her.

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Okiphia Rayna
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12-05-2007 17:34
Happy ending ^_^

Being fixed if I can log in to remove 4m of tier from the group.. miscalculated lol

EDIT:: The miscalculation was in my tier donation.. lowered it from the 16km to 4m over my actual limit without the tier up.. so couldn't be fixed till i fixed that
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Rhaorth Antonelli
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12-05-2007 17:34
if that is the case then yeah they should do something

as I said I have not won land on auction so clueless about the process

if it did warn though, then they probably will not do anything which sucks
but you never know

I wish the best of luck with it all
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Elanthius Flagstaff
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12-06-2007 06:15
From: Okiphia Rayna
But I am, and never intended to be. My tier up was caused by lack of information regarding changes to the auction system.

I won an auction, and had been told by various residents that I would claim it, and it was my understanding it would just be buying it essentially (The price being the bid or 0L$ was varied between sources). I checked the database and didn't learn any differently. If this had been the case (As it used to be) I would have been able to buy it for my group that owns all of my land. Unfortunately.. that isn't what happened. The land would have brought me perfectly within my tier had I been able to buy for my group, but as I couldn't it tiered me up. I have under 10000m of land when with my old tier I could have just over 10000m (Also using the free 512 from an alt premie).

So.. I tiered up because they changed how it worked without letting the information out. I'm trying to see if they would reimburse me and tier me down, as I am not using any of the extra 8000m of tier. If I can' get the money back then I may have to do an additional tier down, losing most of my land.. which I can't do, too much on it ;) lol

I've spent well over 1000 USD since I started SL, and I know my limits on how much, and stay just perfectly within them.. this takes me beyond that limit.

So there's my issue.. and I'm hoping so very much it can get fixed.


I'm sorry for your tier problems. If you can't get LL to tier you down [if it was the typical "I got tiered up taking land out of a group, they usually will let you off the hook the first time], we'll pay you for the spare tier if donated to the Ninja group.
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Elanthius Flagstaff
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12-06-2007 06:22
I just want to ask a clarifying question here:


Did the OP buy the land after winning the auction, or did the land appear in his/her name without any action on her part?

In the auctions I've won, the land was always set for sale to me as specific user for L$0. I then had a choice for "buy land" or "buy for group". It sounds like this may have changed, but I want to know the details of what happens now.
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Okiphia Rayna
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12-06-2007 08:52
From: Elanthius Flagstaff
I just want to ask a clarifying question here:


Did the OP buy the land after winning the auction, or did the land appear in his/her name without any action on her part?

In the auctions I've won, the land was always set for sale to me as specific user for L$0. I then had a choice for "buy land" or "buy for group". It sounds like this may have changed, but I want to know the details of what happens now.

It appeared in my name without any claiming whatsoever. I won the auctoin, then waited a little bit and suddenly I had -3000 L$ (Bid for 8000 approx, had 5000 approx... good to know you dont have to have the L$ at the time =P). I went to the land to claim it and it was already in my name, and I had been tiered up.

I'd say that that is a problem. So I got it fixed for me, though others may have the same problem.
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