Want to make sure I'm doing things right...

I've been searching the forums for about 2 hours looking for answers and...ugh...I give up. So here goes my questions...

1. If I have poseballs that I found for free, can I create a piece of furniture using these poseballs and sell the furniture? I was wondering if I need to leave the furniture modifiable so someone can remove the poseballs to use on something else if they wish. Also, same question, but regarding free scripts...

2. If I have something that is full perm, does that mean I can do ANYTHING with this item? Can I modify it to my liking and add it to another creation to sell?

3. If I find items for free, can I, in return, rebox these items and offer them for free or is this something that only the original creator can do?

Reason I'm asking, is there is so much thievery going on and questions about permissions, I don't want to step on anyones toes or do anything considered unethical by the SL community. I know how long it takes to create something worthwhile and I wouldn't want someone stealing something I put my time into, so I want to make sure I'm not doing that to someone else.

Any input would be greatly appreciated

I don't see any problems using free stuff of any kind to make something with. Would be good form to make the object editable or at least add a note card stating what was used or something. Give credit to the creators of the free stuff when possible. I find a lot of stuff now days with no owner name given though.

Full perm items can be used however you want for the most part. Some things got messed up with permissions over the years and some things that are not supposed to have full permissions do have them so someone might get mad if they find you using then when they were not meant for that. But you can just explain it wasn't your intention. They can take it however they want.

Re-boxing free items to give away free should be fine. Some creators only want their free stuff to be had at their own places but they should make the item non transferable if they do that to enforce it.

These are just my opinions if I was the creator of the free stuff. I wouldn't mind people using them to make other stuff.

Thanks for your input Angle. I like the idea of the notecard, didn't think of that. Credit should go where credit is due
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Also, any idea on how to rebox free scripts so that the box doesn't fly off into space when I get out of the edit mode?

*runs off to find the flying prim*

This question would be more likely to attract the attention of professional builders if you posted it in the Building Tips forum.

1. If I have poseballs that I found for free, can I create a piece of furniture using these poseballs and sell the furniture?
Yes. Only if you sold the poseballs (or scripts) without modification on their own would you be unethical. That said, the free poseballs are very well-known in SL, and the non-free ones are generally noticably better.

I was wondering if I need to leave the furniture modifiable so someone can remove the poseballs to use on something else if they wish. Also, same question, but regarding free scripts...
No. [personal note: i like furniture to be copy/mod, or at least resizable. that's just me. if sl ever fixes the inventory loss bugs, maybe i'll change my mind.]

2. If I have something that is full perm, does that mean I can do ANYTHING with this item? Can I modify it to my liking and add it to another creation to sell?
Yes, you can. One thing that you SHOULD not do with any full-perm item that you bought for building (textures come to mind here) is resell or give them away on their own (as opposed to part of some product). There is no way to enforce it, but texture/anim etc. vendors would be out of business if we all simply gave their products to all our pals after buying them.

3. If I find items for free, can I, in return, rebox these items and offer them for free or is this something that only the original creator can do?
Yes. Often done. Make it a pretty box, with the same perms they originally had

I stopped building stuff a long time ago. I never had any problems with stuff flying off. Hope they get that sorted out. lol

First of all, as this has happened to me, and what actually got me flamed out of a group chat not long ago. (As I woke up all grumpy from a stupid turtle...! because of someone giving out my notecard with their product.)

If you create something. Using freebies, or Re-distribute notecards that are not yours, such as a help card on the RGB color system, Or a free table you did not create.

State that the creator of the Table, and the Notecard- had nothing to do with the finished product. However give them credit for there help in creating the product.

Do this to stop that person who did nothing but contribute help and freebies to the SL community, from getting random IM's at 3am in which they then goto the email inbox, making the lil turtle ont he desktop pop out of his shell, going "YOU HAVE MAIL" at his loudest, quiet possibly through a headset as the person probably fell asleep at the computer again... and waking them up with a question about some random product that has nothing to do with them........

-Matty

If the box is flying off, it has a protection script in it GIZ, to stop it being put in a one prim box, Which means.... They do not want you to give it out,

Unless this is happening to every script, then theres nothing you can do, if the script is modifiable, you can try editing out the protection... but then that is theift. Maybe IM the creator.

-Matty

Oh! I did not know that. These are all scripts I found free at Yandi's and other freebie warehouse places, so I assumed (I know, I should never assume) they were okay to be passed along. I'll definitely take out the protected script from the box...thanks for the heads up on that!

I have never reboxed scripts, but surely if you sling a load in a box together you could end up with all sorts of weird things happening? How are quantaties of scripts boxed together to avoid them all going off?

set the scripts to not running!

Please refer to the "Prim of Evil" thread:

/327/76/187724/1.html

There is a solution provided in there -- edit the box and set it to "NOT RUN SCRIPTS" before putting the scripts in. But I just went in SL and tried, and couldn't find that option in the edit window. There is "Set scripts to not running in selection" in the Tools menu, but it won't let me set that until there is already a script in the item. Perhaps you can put one script in, then set it to "not running", and then put the rest in?

Presumably you could just click the new script button to set the "hello avatar" script running, and then turn off scripts.

The SL permission is pretty limited as figuring out the original intent of the creator of a product released full perms. Several scenarios:

1. It was released as a full perms freebie, to do with whatever a person wants. (modify/resell for any price etc.) There's actually almost NO creator releasing freebies with this intent. (To have them resold for L$ specifically).

2. It was released as a full perms freebie, to freely distribute to others for 0L$ again. This is the most common intent of most full perms freebie creators. Often they don't mind if you incorporate it in a new product, to sell. But some creators will.

3. It was released full perms as this is the only way it's fully useable/resellable. (we see this with animations/poseballs/textures etc.) These articles were originally sold for a price with the original agreement not to distribute, but 'got out in the world' anyways, usually though the users forgetting to change the perms on the original object.

Legally (as in LL won't punish you), you're free to treat any full perms item as 1. But ethically, it's often best to simply IM the creator and ask for his/her intentions, if they're not clear.

There's also a second reason to ask the creator. I personally released some full perms freebies in the past, and updated them, to fix issues, or make them easier to use. You could be using an 'old buggy' version of a freebie which is already updated. This also prevents the situation where the creator is constantly being nagged about issues for an item which is already fixed...

Nope.

I just tried it. Added one script, used the Tools menu to turn off scripts in selection, then added a second script... and the second script ran.

There has GOT to be a better way to box a large number of scripts.

Try putting the scripts in while holding the ctrl key. (Not in world, so i can't test, but it could work...)