Helpppppppppppppppp lol!!!!

Hi everyone,

I need some help please, to save a grown mans tears and him launching his laptop out the window, this is what im trying to do!!

Pole dancing..i can make the poles, scripts..but..the animiations i cant understand....i cant seem to find any full perm ones, they are all mod/copy.....sooooo....i know i can set the pole to allow anyone to take a copy of it...but how do i set a price for that copy? Failing that, please someone tell me where i can get full perm ones, i have scoured SL search and xstreet, and now want to cry!!

Lol

Thanks for any advice

Forrest

Right click your product. Choose edit.

On the first tab, look toward the bottom. You will see 'set for sale.' Click there and type in your price.

Now in the same tab, choose 'take copy' so they don't take the original.

So you actually made a pole.wow!!!!

ty

But when i do that, the set for sale isnt available to me?

lol blot, well im proud of it!!! haha

Go for it,

If I understand the post, I think you're out of luck. If the anims aren't both copy and transfer, you can't sell them, and there's not much market for dancepoles without animations. I'm not aware of any full-perm pole dancing anims (which doesn't mean they don't exist--but if you find them and they're not being sold by the animator directly, they're probably ripped).

You could try contacting one of the dancepole animators to see if they'd be interested in some kind of resale agreement with you, but most of them already sell their own dancepoles, so... it may be difficult to come up with a compelling business proposition for them.

The alternative is to make your own animations. That sounds like a big barrier to cross, but really, dancepoles are the dances inside; most of them have the most primitive scripting imaginable, often full of access-control bugs, and yet they sell, just because of the animations.

So, on second thought, maybe there *is* a partnership opportunity here because there seem to be a lot of dancepole sellers in dire need of somebody who can actually script.

I doubt that the animation creators would be happy about you using full perm animations, then sending them out in an item that is copy/transfer. Why would you send the item out as copy/transfer? Do you understand the effects of that? Particularly if you are using someone else's creations?

Ty Qie

Mickey im not sure what you mean, surley if you buy something with full perms, it means exactly that....resell and all? Or is that not the case? Idk

Might be some confusion about "full perms" here. Many full-perm animations are sold with a license agreement that requires the buyer to change those permissions before resale, so the *next* owner--the buyer of the resold product--can't both copy and transfer the animations, effectively making them freebies. (There's a detailed process for making sure those next-owner permissions have actually taken effect, so don't skip any steps!)

There are, of course, freebie full-perm animations around, too, but if one doesn't want one's products to get blacklisted at some unknown point in the future, resulting in very unhappy customers, one wants to be darn sure the animator really intended that the anims be freebies.

most cases where i have seen full permission from someone it means you have full permission..
not half permission..
just make sure the best you can that they are from the original creator

Edit: and what Qie said also..

Ah right, i understand now...no, if i had full perm ones i would not sell them on as copy/trans....a noob perhaps, but not a total plum!!!! lmao

Thanks Again

So continues my quest, to infinity and beyond!

It's not the case when I place a pose inside a seat cushion. Those pose creators give explicit instructions that you are NOT to send that item out without unchecking the copy option on their pose.

Someone else will have to explain all the mechanics on that.

As far as sending out something copy/transfer....even if you do get an animation that you can set inside the pole to do this....here are the ramifications....let me use a T-shirt as an example. And I missed if you mentioned "modify" as well....that's another problem.

I make a really nice T-shirt and set it out copy/transfer. I sell it for 50L. Joe picks it up, then sets it out in his yard sale for 75L, and sells it over and over again.....then Buffy picks it up at his yard sale, takes it back to her clothing store, and sells it for 100L, and sells it over and over again.....Tiffany picks it up there, and decides she's going to take it back to her freebie shop, and give it away for 5L, over and over again. (well worth the 100L paid)....it keeps going and going.....and that T-shirt is everywhere.

In the case of your dance pole. Whatever dance you've put in it.....that dance is suddenly worthless and humdrum and lame and void of value.....because everyone in SL has it, or can pick it up at a freebie shop now. I don't think that a creator would like this.

you could try6 to make your own..it's really not that bad making them..Qavimator is pretty user friendly once you see the basics of how it works..there are classes you can take..
sensual stoneworks has a very good teacher there named Flame..
she'll have you making your own in one basic class

kk, thank you all sooo much, i feel educated!! I would really like a copy of that t-shirt tho Mickey, hahaha!

Making animations with QAvimator is not difficult at all for normal animations. However, making dance pole animations is not normal animating. QAvimator does its tweening in a straight line, which for dance poles does not work as the hips are constantly moving around the pole while making various gyrations that change the location of the hands that are holding the pole. Dance pole animations really do require a highly skilled animator to make from scratch.

The best dance pole animations are now being made via motion capture. I know of no motion capture animators who are selling full perm animations, especially dance pole animations.

You are a "grown man" and you are pole dancing? I shudder at the thought.

before MOcap became famous in sl they were making them from things like Qavimator and Avimator..before sinewave introduced their poles the best poles out were the basic 3 animation poles..

a lot of what you are describing is what is done in MOcap or Poser or Animation master ect..if he wants to start to learn animations Qavi is a good basic start point..

I didn't mean they would be putting out great dance pole animations from one basic class but they would be making animations from one basic class..you have to start somewhere..
not all dance pole animations are going around the pole ..some of the best are on one side of the pole

but ya they won't be making any MOcap quality animations in Qavi but dance pole animations can be done in there..