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Logic Merlin

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01-31-2008 06:55

Hi there

I've been browsing through forums and the support site of SL and haven't found any official document from linden labs about the parental guidance (PG) regions. Is there such document that clearly defines what is a PG region or is that just the term we use to define a region that is free of adult content?

Thanks a lot for you answer and if there is some kind of document available for public, thanks for indicating the link.

Cheers

3Ring Binder

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01-31-2008 06:59

someone else will come along with the TOS, but i can say that just using common sense..... anything you would not want your daughter to see, or your mother see YOU viewing, is not PG. reverse of what you asked, but still relevant.

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Colette Meiji

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01-31-2008 07:01

The Community standards are here

https://secure-web15.secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php

and from the knowledge base -

From: knowledge base

What is the difference between PG and Mature land?

Landowners can indicate their land to be either PG or Mature from the Region tab of the Region/Estate window, using the Maturity dropdown list.

The PG and Mature ratings mirror those used by many countries' movie and television industries to denote the age-appropriateness of behavior, language and creations within a given area of Second Life.

PG Areas are designated to be free from sexually explicit language or behavior, swearing and other forms of aggressive language, violent behavior and/or imagery, including horror. In Teen Second Life, "gambling" for Linden Dollars is also prohibited.

Children and young people up to age 17 are automatically restricted to Teen Second Life, a special PG area that separates them from the adult population of Second Life for their own protection.

Adults age 18 and over may seek an experience free of Mature content and so, we also offer PG areas within the adult regions of Second Life.

Mature areas are limited to the adult-accessible areas of Second Life only, and do allow adult language and behavior.
So how do I know where to draw the line?

PG regions have frequently been described as an area where you're free to say and do things that you would feel comfortable doing in front of your grandmother, or a grade school class.

In Mature regions, Residents can be free to engage in more adult activity and language, though of course, explicit adult content must be contained behind "closed doors".

However, if you feel there's some ambiguity as to whether or not your activity or content is allowed in a PG region, it's likely best kept to a Mature region.

Nuno McCullough

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01-31-2008 07:56

Correct me if I'm wrong but to create an account we shouldn't have more than 18 yo?

Colette Meiji

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01-31-2008 07:58

From: Nuno McCullough

Correct me if I'm wrong but to create an account we shouldn't have more than 18 yo?

You have to be over 18 for the main grid, true.

But some people don't ever want to have to see any content that involves sex.

And thus PG areas.

Basically.

Logic Merlin

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thanks

01-31-2008 09:44

hi

thanks a lot for that quick answer.
so i conclud that the community standards and the excerpt from the knowledge base concerning the difference between PG and mature region make the official statement.

Cherry Czervik

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01-31-2008 09:48

PG areas were the places without sexual content, blatent nudity, casinos and the like. Usually this is where the nicer builds also were.

However the Main Grid *is* over 18. Children simply have no place here - PG is no guarantee of safety and not seeing something you might not want to - the WAs are a prime example of that.

Basically if kids are old enough for the TG then fine, TG for them. Otherwise, this is an adult world and should stay that way. Might not be a popular view but it is my view that the entire responsibility should be with parents.

Not so likely since that German TV crew ...

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Har Fairweather

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01-31-2008 09:52

From: Cherry Czervik

PG areas were the places without sexual content, blatent nudity, casinos and the like. Usually this is where the nicer builds also were.

However the Main Grid *is* over 18. Children simply have no place here - PG is no guarantee of safety and not seeing something you might not want to - the WAs are a prime example of that.

Basically if kids are old enough for the TG then fine, TG for them. Otherwise, this is an adult world and should stay that way. Might not be a popular view but it is my view that the entire responsibility should be with parents.

Not so likely since that German TV crew ...

Yeah [sigh]. God forbid LL should ever spill coffee on anybody.

Cherry Czervik

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01-31-2008 09:55

Lmao

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Colette Meiji

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01-31-2008 10:56

From: Logic Merlin

hi

thanks a lot for that quick answer.
so i conclud that the community standards and the excerpt from the knowledge base concerning the difference between PG and mature region make the official statement.

there is probably a blog post or two on the subject I suppose. But yes they have been very hesitant traditionally to describe how nude equals nude and how sexual equals sexually graphic.

Robin claimed something to the effect that if they make a definite boundary then people will push the letter of the rule and their hands will be tied.

So dont expect a beach city council style rule like - "bikini bottoms must be opaque and cover the buttocks, while the tops must be at least 3 inches in diameter and obscure the nipples."

Official document about parental guidance
Logic Merlin Registered User Join date: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 2	01-31-2008 06:55 Hi there I've been browsing through forums and the support site of SL and haven't found any official document from linden labs about the parental guidance (PG) regions. Is there such document that clearly defines what is a PG region or is that just the term we use to define a region that is free of adult content? Thanks a lot for you answer and if there is some kind of document available for public, thanks for indicating the link. Cheers
3Ring Binder always smile Join date: 8 Mar 2007 Posts: 15,028	01-31-2008 06:59 someone else will come along with the TOS, but i can say that just using common sense..... anything you would not want your daughter to see, or your mother see YOU viewing, is not PG. reverse of what you asked, but still relevant. _____________________ it was fun while it lasted. http://2lf.informe.com/
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	01-31-2008 07:01 The Community standards are here https://secure-web15.secondlife.com/corporate/cs.php and from the knowledge base - From: knowledge base What is the difference between PG and Mature land? Landowners can indicate their land to be either PG or Mature from the Region tab of the Region/Estate window, using the Maturity dropdown list. The PG and Mature ratings mirror those used by many countries' movie and television industries to denote the age-appropriateness of behavior, language and creations within a given area of Second Life. PG Areas are designated to be free from sexually explicit language or behavior, swearing and other forms of aggressive language, violent behavior and/or imagery, including horror. In Teen Second Life, "gambling" for Linden Dollars is also prohibited. Children and young people up to age 17 are automatically restricted to Teen Second Life, a special PG area that separates them from the adult population of Second Life for their own protection. Adults age 18 and over may seek an experience free of Mature content and so, we also offer PG areas within the adult regions of Second Life. Mature areas are limited to the adult-accessible areas of Second Life only, and do allow adult language and behavior. So how do I know where to draw the line? PG regions have frequently been described as an area where you're free to say and do things that you would feel comfortable doing in front of your grandmother, or a grade school class. In Mature regions, Residents can be free to engage in more adult activity and language, though of course, explicit adult content must be contained behind "closed doors". However, if you feel there's some ambiguity as to whether or not your activity or content is allowed in a PG region, it's likely best kept to a Mature region.
Nuno McCullough PixelDolls' wholesaler Join date: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 275	01-31-2008 07:56 Correct me if I'm wrong but to create an account we shouldn't have more than 18 yo?
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	01-31-2008 07:58 From: Nuno McCullough Correct me if I'm wrong but to create an account we shouldn't have more than 18 yo? You have to be over 18 for the main grid, true. But some people don't ever want to have to see any content that involves sex. And thus PG areas. Basically.
Logic Merlin Registered User Join date: 12 Sep 2007 Posts: 2	thanks 01-31-2008 09:44 hi thanks a lot for that quick answer. so i conclud that the community standards and the excerpt from the knowledge base concerning the difference between PG and mature region make the official statement.
Cherry Czervik Came To Her Senses Join date: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 3,680	01-31-2008 09:48 PG areas were the places without sexual content, blatent nudity, casinos and the like. Usually this is where the nicer builds also were. However the Main Grid is over 18. Children simply have no place here - PG is no guarantee of safety and not seeing something you might not want to - the WAs are a prime example of that. Basically if kids are old enough for the TG then fine, TG for them. Otherwise, this is an adult world and should stay that way. Might not be a popular view but it is my view that the entire responsibility should be with parents. Not so likely since that German TV crew ... _____________________ To exchange power is sublime. To steal from another ... well, what goes around comes around.
Har Fairweather Registered User Join date: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 2,320	01-31-2008 09:52 From: Cherry Czervik PG areas were the places without sexual content, blatent nudity, casinos and the like. Usually this is where the nicer builds also were. However the Main Grid is over 18. Children simply have no place here - PG is no guarantee of safety and not seeing something you might not want to - the WAs are a prime example of that. Basically if kids are old enough for the TG then fine, TG for them. Otherwise, this is an adult world and should stay that way. Might not be a popular view but it is my view that the entire responsibility should be with parents. Not so likely since that German TV crew ... Yeah [sigh]. God forbid LL should ever spill coffee on anybody.
Cherry Czervik Came To Her Senses Join date: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 3,680	01-31-2008 09:55 Lmao _____________________ To exchange power is sublime. To steal from another ... well, what goes around comes around.
Colette Meiji Registered User Join date: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 15,556	01-31-2008 10:56 From: Logic Merlin hi thanks a lot for that quick answer. so i conclud that the community standards and the excerpt from the knowledge base concerning the difference between PG and mature region make the official statement. there is probably a blog post or two on the subject I suppose. But yes they have been very hesitant traditionally to describe how nude equals nude and how sexual equals sexually graphic. Robin claimed something to the effect that if they make a definite boundary then people will push the letter of the rule and their hands will be tied. So dont expect a beach city council style rule like - "bikini bottoms must be opaque and cover the buttocks, while the tops must be at least 3 inches in diameter and obscure the nipples."

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