Allowed groups... gone?

In the continuing daily saga of "WTFLL"...

Anyone else have every one of their "Allowed Groups" on every sim dissapear today?

I mean I know that "Private" invite only sims are against the Tao of Linden but isn't this a bit much?

not sure what you mean...

also, how would a private invite only sim be against the tao of linden, being that it is (I am guessing you mean privately owned sims, not mainland) owned by someone and it is their choice how they set up their sim.

still, not sure what you mean about the groups.

If you own a sim you can restrict visitors to a set of "allowed groups".

That is unless LL decides to empty that list and effectively ban everyone from your island all at once! ;D

I would be interested in hearing from any other sim owners if they had the same thing happen to them or if I was singled out for special treatment.

As far as the Tao goes... LL would seemingly like a compeletly open grid. Having people buy sims and lock them off from access to the general public was frowned upon at one time, memory is fuzzy but I seem to remember that being speifically mentioned but of course aways allowed.

And of course I'd prefer to have mine open but after three months of spending all my time dealing with griefers and zero time enjoying what I was paying for they all went private at least two years ago.

after last week i noticed all the settings i had set up for my homestead had vanished. I had it set as NOT accessible and a list of names that were allowed access. I happned to notice when adding another person, that all my previous settings ie: private and NOT accesible were gone and it had been left as open to ALL.

Still havent had the time to set it all up again tsk.

i just did a quick check on the one sim i have set to limited access, the alowed groups have been whiped there too, luckely the alowed avatars list is still populated and access is still restricted so the damage is limited.
I'm suspecting a simular slip as when all the mlp scripts got whiped inworld.

I just checked this with some of my group restricted regions. Indeed, the estate menu does not show any allowed groups anymore (0, max. 63). Still the restrictions are still active, only members of the groups that should be listed there can access the regions. Very weird.

must be a feature (bug?) caused by either the rolling restop or the rolling retard...
contact concierge .. they probably know about it but are pretending it didnt happen till someone says something.

As I have got to know LL, I would rather ascribe that behaviour to a bug than to mens rea.

Apparently a bug. The estate where I live has always been non-public, and has 5 allowed groups, one for each household with access. I just checked, and what is *visible* as an allowed groups list is indeed blank. Yet I was able with no issues to log in on that sim with an alt that would not have access to the sim at all unless my land group was in the allowed groups list...

Further tests. I was able to "re add" my land group, which then showed only one allowed group in the list. But the "remove" button was nonfunctional. It acts as if there are no groups defined.

I also verified that after re-adding my group manually, one of teh other Estate Managers for the sim also only saw my group listed. Trying a sim restart now, but I do not think that will clear this up. I think one of the recent server code releases glitched the communication of what is actually in the allowed groups list.

Probable cause...

Annoying, because after my restart, my home sim did not come fully back on-line10 minutes later. And attempting to log in as an account that was already there routed her to a welcome area, wth a "region unavailable" error. Same error I get if I try to TP home right now. Was the same alt that moments earlier was able to log in fine at that sim.

OK, was finally able to TP home again. That region restart took far longer than normal.

No change after a restart, so sim restarts don't fix this glitch. The allowed groups list for my sim still only shows the one I manually re-entered.

Logged on with another alt who is in the land group that I manually re-added, and had no issues doing a TP to another sim and a TP back home again.

I don't have any alts that are not in my own land group but that are in oneof the other alllowed land groups that do not show. But based on my earlier tests, I think the allowed groups are still working server-side, but just are not showing right client-side.

I was gonna say, Seal, I was in Otter Cove this morning... I think this needs to be in JIRA.

http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SVC-3903

Vote for them to fix this bug!

I readded all the groups no problem.

Acess WAS restricted to everyone. I.e. of the several hundred that had acess before, only about 6 could actually enter the sims because of having individual avatar acess, so it wasn;t just that the groups were not videable by the client, they really had been reset to 0.

Also I've had one sim reset itself to scripts off twice in the last month.

WHich causes a highly amusing/irritating situation with a boat that self travels through all the sims!

Interesting. I had no problem at all logging in to the sim with an alt whose only access right to our non-Public sim would be from my land group being valid in Allowed Groups for the sim.

We have also started manually re-adding the groups, just in case, and they seem to be staying once re-added.

Voted.

This is weird, we only have an allowed groups list, no allowed individual avatars. I tried it out with an alt, kicked him out of the access group and he wasn't able to come to the region. I re-added him to the group, and he was able to come without a problem. So at least in that case the access groups are still working, just not showing. (I would have heard lots of complains within the last 24 hours if not, too.)

hey!

voted

Recent reports indicate that in some sims, the allowed groups list actually did get wiped, and people who should have had access via that list could not get into the sim until the group was re-added to the estate dialog.

My initial test may have been flawed. While I logged in with an account that should not have had access if the allowed groups list was blank, that account was already in-sim and at her home point when I did that. I did not try having her leave the sim and return, until after I had restored my own land group manually in the allowed groups list.

Sim owners or estate managers should check their allowed groups list, and manually restore any that are missing.

That would explain how I was able to rez in Otter Cove when I logged in.

Yep. Normally, if you try to _enter_ a restricted acess area and you are not on the access lists, you simply can't. But if you were already there, you log out, and someone changes the list while you were logged out? Especially if that place was where you had your home point set? You might well be able to log in and remain in the area for a while, though leaving and coming back might be prohibited.

that made me chuckle