Second Life Forums Archive - Changes coming up for supported versions

Viktoria Dovgal

…

Join date: 29 Jul 2007

Posts: 3,593

03-09-2009 17:56

https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/blog/2009/03/09/supported-viewer-versions

TL; DR: starting with the 1.22 release, only the currrent, immediate previous, and RC versions of the viewer will be supported by LL. So, when 1.22 comes out, 1.20.x will no longer be supported and you'll get that upgrade red flag at the login screen (ETA; since this is a newish thing, they will delay forcing that for 30 days).

None of that matters if you use one of the unofficial viewers. Those bypass the whole automatic upgrade thing anyway, and even if up to date LL doesn't support them.

Weston Graves

Werebeagle

Join date: 24 Mar 2007

Posts: 2,059

03-09-2009 19:09

Okay - time to back up my WindLight settings They seem to disappear when I install a new viewer, or have in the past anyway.

_____________________

Goodbye for now from human Weston, beagle Weston, and Keyboard Guy.

Best of both lives to you all.

SuezanneC Baskerville

Forums Rock!

Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

03-09-2009 19:32

Will you be able to use the channel parameter in a shortcut to allow you to continue to use unsupported LL viewers?

_____________________

-

So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them.

I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to

http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne

-

http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03.

Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard,
Robin, and Ryan

-

Viktoria Dovgal

…

Join date: 29 Jul 2007

Posts: 3,593

03-09-2009 19:38

The channel trick will pretty much make it an unofficial viewer in the login server's eyes, so sure.

I'm pretty sure that the caps server 500 response change is part of what prompted this (1.20.17 and under will need patching), so abadoned versions that don't get fixed are going to have trouble at some point.

Daniel Regenbogen

Registered User

Join date: 9 Nov 2006

Posts: 684

03-10-2009 01:00

And with that the last viewer supporting my Logitech G15 LCD keyboard will go down the drain, after LL in all their wisdom decided that new viewers are not only about fixing errors and introducing new features but also about taking away well working and useful features. Making $100+ investments by their customers worthless.

Ylikone Obscure

Amatuer Troll

Join date: 24 Jan 2007

Posts: 335

03-10-2009 04:39

From: Daniel Regenbogen

And with that the last viewer supporting my Logitech G15 LCD keyboard will go down the drain, after LL in all their wisdom decided that new viewers are not only about fixing errors and introducing new features but also about taking away well working and useful features. Making $100+ investments by their customers worthless.

How does a new version of SL viewer break your keyboard?

Daniel Regenbogen

Registered User

Join date: 9 Nov 2006

Posts: 684

03-10-2009 04:46

From: Ylikone Obscure

How does a new version of SL viewer break your keyboard?

Simple: this keyboard as a built in lcd screen that can show for example important statistics for SL: FPS, time dilation and things like that. Very useful especially for estate owners and managers, they don't need to keep the statistics window open all the time. In the pre 1.21 viewers that worked fine, there even was a special sub menu in the viewer preferences for it - but LL in their neverending wisdom took this out.

Atashi Toshihiko

Frequently Befuddled

Join date: 7 Dec 2006

Posts: 1,423

03-10-2009 05:20

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Will you be able to use the channel parameter in a shortcut to allow you to continue to use unsupported LL viewers?

The channel parameter will get you in but an older viewer won't work for many things, like Teleports. As Viktoria mentioned, if this is due to the caps server 500 response, then the server side work is going to render the older viewers somewhat incompatible.

A patch has been released so people can compile it into an older viewer using the open source software. That will make the older viewer compatible again so it will keep working just fine.

-Atashi

_____________________

Visit Atashi's Art and Oddities Store and the Waikiti Motor Works at beautiful Waikiti.

Tristin Mikazuki

Sarah Palin ROCKS!

Join date: 9 Oct 2006

Posts: 1,012

03-10-2009 11:14

Have they givin a time frame when they are gona do this?

_____________________

Viktoria Dovgal

…

Join date: 29 Jul 2007

Posts: 3,593

03-11-2009 14:39

From: Tristin Mikazuki

Have they givin a time frame when they are gona do this?

That was posted to sldev today. May 8 is the last day you can be sure the old 500 response will be there, that's when the support clock runs out for it. They won't necessarily upgrade the web servers the next day, but it can happen at any time after that.

Users of the official 1.20 will get the forced upgrade prompt beginning on April 9.

Changes coming up for supported versions
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	03-09-2009 17:56 https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/technology/blog/2009/03/09/supported-viewer-versions TL; DR: starting with the 1.22 release, only the currrent, immediate previous, and RC versions of the viewer will be supported by LL. So, when 1.22 comes out, 1.20.x will no longer be supported and you'll get that upgrade red flag at the login screen (ETA; since this is a newish thing, they will delay forcing that for 30 days). None of that matters if you use one of the unofficial viewers. Those bypass the whole automatic upgrade thing anyway, and even if up to date LL doesn't support them.
Weston Graves Werebeagle Join date: 24 Mar 2007 Posts: 2,059	03-09-2009 19:09 Okay - time to back up my WindLight settings They seem to disappear when I install a new viewer, or have in the past anyway. _____________________ Goodbye for now from human Weston, beagle Weston, and Keyboard Guy. Best of both lives to you all.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	03-09-2009 19:32 Will you be able to use the channel parameter in a shortcut to allow you to continue to use unsupported LL viewers? _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	03-09-2009 19:38 The channel trick will pretty much make it an unofficial viewer in the login server's eyes, so sure. I'm pretty sure that the caps server 500 response change is part of what prompted this (1.20.17 and under will need patching), so abadoned versions that don't get fixed are going to have trouble at some point.
Daniel Regenbogen Registered User Join date: 9 Nov 2006 Posts: 684	03-10-2009 01:00 And with that the last viewer supporting my Logitech G15 LCD keyboard will go down the drain, after LL in all their wisdom decided that new viewers are not only about fixing errors and introducing new features but also about taking away well working and useful features. Making $100+ investments by their customers worthless.
Ylikone Obscure Amatuer Troll Join date: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 335	03-10-2009 04:39 From: Daniel Regenbogen And with that the last viewer supporting my Logitech G15 LCD keyboard will go down the drain, after LL in all their wisdom decided that new viewers are not only about fixing errors and introducing new features but also about taking away well working and useful features. Making $100+ investments by their customers worthless. How does a new version of SL viewer break your keyboard?
Daniel Regenbogen Registered User Join date: 9 Nov 2006 Posts: 684	03-10-2009 04:46 From: Ylikone Obscure How does a new version of SL viewer break your keyboard? Simple: this keyboard as a built in lcd screen that can show for example important statistics for SL: FPS, time dilation and things like that. Very useful especially for estate owners and managers, they don't need to keep the statistics window open all the time. In the pre 1.21 viewers that worked fine, there even was a special sub menu in the viewer preferences for it - but LL in their neverending wisdom took this out.
Atashi Toshihiko Frequently Befuddled Join date: 7 Dec 2006 Posts: 1,423	03-10-2009 05:20 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Will you be able to use the channel parameter in a shortcut to allow you to continue to use unsupported LL viewers? The channel parameter will get you in but an older viewer won't work for many things, like Teleports. As Viktoria mentioned, if this is due to the caps server 500 response, then the server side work is going to render the older viewers somewhat incompatible. A patch has been released so people can compile it into an older viewer using the open source software. That will make the older viewer compatible again so it will keep working just fine. -Atashi _____________________ Visit Atashi's Art and Oddities Store and the Waikiti Motor Works at beautiful Waikiti.
Tristin Mikazuki Sarah Palin ROCKS! Join date: 9 Oct 2006 Posts: 1,012	03-10-2009 11:14 Have they givin a time frame when they are gona do this? _____________________
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	03-11-2009 14:39 From: Tristin Mikazuki Have they givin a time frame when they are gona do this? That was posted to sldev today. May 8 is the last day you can be sure the old 500 response will be there, that's when the support clock runs out for it. They won't necessarily upgrade the web servers the next day, but it can happen at any time after that. Users of the official 1.20 will get the forced upgrade prompt beginning on April 9.

Welcome to the Second Life Forums Archive

Changes coming up for supported versions