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Request for Clarification on Estate Owner Settings (Adult Content Settings)

Rygel Ryba
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Join date: 12 Feb 2008
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06-22-2009 03:41
Okay... I've been trying to keep up with all of this. Information is all over the place. I understand exactly what I would have to do if I had a mainland parcel that needed to move to Zindra. That's not the case though. We're going to keep our mainland plot and set it up as an "outlet" store for our "non adult" items. So the move isn't an issue to me. But... I am totally confused as to what settings I need to put onto my Estate sim...

Before we start: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - I BEG YOU... DO NOT HIJACK THIS THREAD and do not turn it into a discussion about how horrible an idea the adult content thing is or anything else. I am looking for some simple facts or a link to the simple facts of what I am supposed to do.



Okay. Now... the questions...

I have a sim. There is adult content on it. Not much, but I don't want to be bothered with any hassles, I don't want to ask for a review of the "grey area" stuff, and I don't want to run the risk of getting an AR and having my sim returned to my Lost and Found folder pending further review. So, I have talked to all of my tennants and on the day that we are supposed to start the separation (I think it's the 29th), I want to just declare everything as "Adult" and not worry about it.

Easy. I set my sim to adult. No problem. But then...

I was lead to believe that "either" Payment info on file OR Age Verified would be enough to get people in. But I see in the new viewer that I am supposed to also add "Block Access by:" Payment Info and/or Age Verified.

So, while I am clear on what adult content is (well, at least as clear as I need to be) I have no idea what the "sub classification" of adult content is. What precisely am I supposed to check off here? If I pick payment info, then there is no reason for the Adult Verification thing - only paid accounts and people who have purchased lindens can get in. If I chose the other, then people with free accounts can get in - if they have successfully age verified. (Given the choice - this would be preferable to me personally - but... it's still not perfect). And if I choose both, then half the people who have taken the time to AV will still get blocked out because they have no payment info. And half the people who have payment info and who were told that it was enough to just have that will not be able to get in.

In the end - the question is simple... Is just declaring my sim "adult" enough? On the estate level, do I have to pick one or both of the other block access options? And which do I pick?

And then.. on the land plot access settings... what do I have to put there? 80% of my sim has no adult content whatsoever, so I assume those can be left alone, but our dungeon (can I say that in here? I know I can't in SL anymore) would be. Are the settings I have set for the sim enough for that? Or do I have to pick a Block-By option. And again - what do I choose?

Once again... PLEASE answer with answers, not speculations or pointing out how silly and confusing this is. We all know. There are 1000 threads with a thousand people saying how silly it is. It's time for threads with facts and answers so we can all get this stuff taken care of.

Thanks!
Qie Niangao
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Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
06-22-2009 04:03
Crap. I was hoping to link to the Knowledge Base, but despite all the fuss, it's still out of date on this.

First of all, you need to be using the 1.23 (current standard download) viewer to make the relevant settings.

Then... well, here:



The individual controls for "age verified" and "payment info" are still available at the parcel and estate-wide levels, but the Adult setting for a Region allows either one or both to have access to that Region (Estate-wide settings permitting, of course).
Rygel Ryba
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Join date: 12 Feb 2008
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06-22-2009 05:12
Thanks. I have the viewer. And understand that I have to set my sim to "Adult" in that. I understand "how" to do all of it. I am just not clear on "what" I am supposed to do.

Is just setting my region to "adult" and calling it a day enough? (as per your graphic - and I'm very grateful for the effort you put in to show that, despite the fact I had that down - it was very considerate and maybe it will help others who read this too). Or am I supposed to pick one of the verification options and just arbitrarily block one or the other groups?

If so - is this arbitrary decision on blocking certain people something I need to do on a sim level, or a parcel level?
Argent Stonecutter
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06-22-2009 05:32
From: Rygel Ryba
I was lead to believe that "either" Payment info on file OR Age Verified would be enough to get people in. But I see in the new viewer that I am supposed to also add "Block Access by:" Payment Info and/or Age Verified.
Where does it say that you are required to do that?

From: someone
Is just declaring my sim "adult" enough?
Yes.

From: someone
On the estate level, do I have to pick one or both of the other block access options?
No, they are left over from the time before the Emp... the Adult Content Definitions.

From: someone
And then.. on the land plot access settings... what do I have to put there?
Nothing. Again, they are a leftover.

If you want to put in more rating details, put them in human-readable form... in the covenant and parcel descriptions.
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Qie Niangao
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06-22-2009 05:39
I don't think you *can* do it on a sim level, but you can on either the Parcel or Estate level.

But you don't have to. It's an option available to you if you should want to be even more selective than the Region-level "Adult" setting.

On a Parcel, of course, it's very lame: whatever you set only goes to 50m above ground level.

Maybe one wants to exclude all NPIOF (or all non-age-verified, or both) from the entire Estate, regardless of the maturity rating of the sim (and, implied thereby, the allowed contents of that sim). I have no compelling story for why one would want to do that, but somebody could make one up. Suspected griefing by NPIOF or something, I dunno.

Similarly, even on a non-Adult sim, one might want to restrict certain parcels to age- or payment info-verified (up to 50m AGL) despite there being no Adult content on the parcel. (Again, the story for why one would want that is left as an exercise for the reader. ;) )

Or, on an Adult sim, one may have some parcels that you want to similarly protect.

It's all about "choice". :rolleyes:
Rygel Ryba
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Join date: 12 Feb 2008
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06-22-2009 09:09
From: Argent Stonecutter


No, they are left over from the time before the Emp... the Adult Content Definitions.

Nothing. Again, they are a leftover.

If you want to put in more rating details, put them in human-readable form... in the covenant and parcel descriptions.


They can't be leftover - they are new. Well, the "Payment Info On File" one is old and leftover. But the "Restrict Access to Age Verified" people is brand new. That's where it got confusing for me.

I'm not worried about making it clear in my descriptions and whatnot that I'm an adult sim. At the end of the day, I'm not even 100% certain that I need to actually declare our sim as adult. Point is - I want to meet the requirements of these new rules as simply as possible to the point where I just don't have to worry about it and deal with it.

Thanks for the info and whatnot. I think on the 29th, I'll just switch that dropdown to "Adult" and call it a day. Hopefully that'll do it.
Argent Stonecutter
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06-22-2009 09:14
From: Rygel Ryba
They can't be leftover - they are new. Well, the "Payment Info On File" one is old and leftover. But the "Restrict Access to Age Verified" people is brand new.
I'm not an estate owner, but that's been in the parcel settings for several versions.
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Treasure Ballinger
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06-22-2009 09:19
From: Argent Stonecutter
I'm not an estate owner, but that's been in the parcel settings for several versions.


Right Argent. It's been there for a long time. Checked it by accident once; had a ghostly, quiet sim for a time, til people started IMing asking why they couldn't get to the sim. LOL then it was oops what did I do, backtrack, uncheck box. Then all was well.
Argent Stonecutter
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06-22-2009 09:22
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Right Argent. It's been there for a long time. Checked it by accident once; had a ghostly, quiet sim for a time, til people started IMing asking why they couldn't get to the sim. LOL then it was oops what did I do, backtrack, uncheck box. Then all was well.
Whoa, good thing it didn't work like the parcel settings. Apparently a few people checked that box and got themselves immediately ejected from their land. :D
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