Microsoft Doesn’t Think People In India Should Be Allowed to Search for the Term Sex
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Argent Stonecutter
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06-06-2009 18:36
http://thomashawk.com/2009/06/microsoft-doesnt-think-people-in-india-should-be-allowed-to-search-for-the-term-sex.html#From: Thomas Hawk Thanks to sandelion for pointing out an interesting fact to me about Microsoft’s new search engine bing. I blogged about bing earlier this week and have been using it as my default search engine instead of Google all week. Apparently Microsoft has decided that part of their job with the new search engine is to become the world’s new censor.
At first I couldn’t believe this. Why would Microsoft think limiting the information provided in a search engine to be a good thing? But then I tried it myself. You can try it too. Just change your location preference in bing from the U.S. to India and try searching for the term “sex.” Yes, Microsoft has decided in their infinite wisdom that Indians should not be allowed to search for information about sex. In Microsoft’s words, “The search sex may return sexually explicit content. To get results, change your search terms.” That’s right, there’s no, “okay, I’m a big boy, go ahead and show me my results” button next to this Microsoft error message, there is simply a message telling you to change your search term. It’s like an instant trip back to the Victorian age.
Now in fairness, it seems that people in India could always just change their country preference from India to the U.S. to get these search results, but it’s still super lame that Microsoft would deem it necessary for people to have to change their country preferences to look up something as universal as “sex.” And many people of course won’t think to do this.
Google, by the way, has no problem with people searching for the term “sex” in India. I guess that’s all part of that whole “organizing the world’s information and making it universally accessible and useful” thing that they seem to be after. Since bing supposedly stands for “bing is not google,” maybe Microsoft should adopt their own mission statement for bing. It could be “censoring the world’s information and making it inaccessible and useless.”
This sort of censorship is a really stupid decision on Microsoft’s part. It’s the biggest reason yet I’ve heard for why I won’t use bing anymore. Censorship sucks Microsoft, don’t you know that yet?
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Milla Janick
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06-06-2009 19:00
I set my location to India and got 1,740,000,000 hits for "sex" with Bing. I call shenanigans. Edit: Oh, THERE it is, there are three places to set your location. It's not only India, but it looks like about half the countries on that list filter sexually explicit content.
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Talarus Luan
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06-06-2009 19:03
I dunno if I would lay this at Microsoft's feet, at least not wholly. The Indian government probably put pressure on M$ to voluntarily filter.
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06-06-2009 21:17
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06-06-2009 21:30
You can put in "Explicit Content" and get results. Also "How to sex" works. I think "sex for married couples" worked. Coincidentally, at nearly the same time I read the initial post, I did a Google search, and noticed at the bottom of the page that Google said it had withheld a result owing to DMCA requirements. Of course I had to click on the link to the DMCA notice, which was about bit torrent links to software, and included the torrent link urls in the body of the DMCA filing; something completely unrelated to what I was searching for. So, Google doesn't exactly provide all the information in the world, it withholds things at times. Also Google's method of withholding links sometimes draws more attention to the withheld links than including them in the results would have produced. 
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Milla Janick
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06-06-2009 21:33
To be honest, the first time I saw the Bing search page, I thought it was one of those cybersquatter pages you get when you mistype a URL.
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Katheryne Helendale
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06-06-2009 21:37
Nevermind the fact that such policies of self-inflicted censorship have "FAIL" written all over them... I still can't get my head around the fact that - even though Microsoft has always been known for being bent around world domination - they would still have the cajones to go up against Google of all things!
Did I mention this has "FAIL" written all over it?
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Milla Janick
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06-06-2009 22:03
From: Katheryne Helendale Did I mention this has "FAIL" written all over it? Trying to block well over a third of the world's population from searching for porn on the internet probably isn't a good first step in dominating the search engine business.
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Katheryne Helendale
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06-06-2009 22:17
From: Milla Janick Trying to block well over a third of the world's population from searching for porn on the internet probably isn't a good first step in dominating the search engine business. I guess Mr. Ballmer hasn't seen this: 
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Ciera Spyker
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06-06-2009 22:38
From: Katheryne Helendale I guess Mr. Ballmer hasn't seen this:  OMG I about fell outa my chair laughing so hard on that one!!! That was pricless. 
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Amity Slade
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06-06-2009 23:13
Microsoft has set out to create a Search product that is distinct from Google and Yahoo. Where as Google and Yahoo attempt to give the searcher the results most relevant to that for which the searcher was looking, Bing will decide for the searcher what the searcher wants to see. (And as it turns out, the things that Bing will decide that the searcher wants to see happen to have a heavy correlations with Microsoft's corporate partners.)
It's not that Bing will disallow users from India to search for "sex." Bing has determined that users from India do not want to search for "sex." Allowing a search for "sex" to turn up any results would unnecessarily confuse them.
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spinster Voom
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06-07-2009 01:47
I wouldn't blame one search engine - this is a global trend. http://opennet.net/(and yes, it sucks)
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Daniel Regenbogen
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06-07-2009 01:57
It's even more crazy. If you are german and search for "Strumpfhose" (pantyhose/tights), you'll get:
"The search strumpfhose may return sexually explicit content. To get results, change your search terms."
The search for "heißes Mädchen Strumpfhose" (hot girl pantyhose/tights) will deliver - hundreds of results.
So... Searching for a piece of clothing is forbidden - but put it together with something a lot more sexual is okay. If I didn't knew it before, at this point I would have realized what company was behind this.
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Ephraim Kappler
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06-07-2009 02:15
Is there a good reason why anyone should be arsed using Microsoft for web searches?
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Katheryne Helendale
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06-07-2009 03:15
From: Ephraim Kappler Is there a good reason why anyone should be arsed using Microsoft for web searches? I can see it being set as the default home page for IE8 when it is fully released.
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Ephraim Kappler
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06-07-2009 03:30
From: Katheryne Helendale I can see it being set as the default home page for IE8 when it is fully released. Oh right. I guess I never think much about IE. Great address by the way. There a resident's association?
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Lota Lyon
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MS fail?
06-07-2009 03:51
From: Milla Janick Trying to block well over a third of the world's population from searching for porn on the internet probably isn't a good first step in dominating the search engine business. Neither is putting out junk operating systems before their reliable a good way to dominate the PC world either but gates and his "monkey systems" is all about marketing, not quality. And don't aim that watermelon gun at me either! 
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Ian Nider
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06-07-2009 04:19
From: Katheryne Helendale Nevermind the fact that such policies of self-inflicted censorship have "FAIL" written all over them... I still can't get my head around the fact that - even though Microsoft has always been known for being bent around world domination - they would still have the cajones to go up against Google of all things! Did I mention this has "FAIL" written all over it? In all of human history they haven't gotten it right, so yeh, it'll fail.
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06-07-2009 04:37
"“The search sex may return sexually explicit content. To get results, change your search terms.”
I love it! Many people are not aware that searching for "sex" would return results relating to sex.
Looking to the positive side, maybe all search engines should refuse to search on single words or very generic phrases. Search engine: Nope! I'm not taking do that because you'll get to much. Be more specific. It's for your own good.
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Dekka Raymaker
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06-07-2009 04:54
Well Linden Lab have really missed out, this would have been a perfect search engine for adult content in SL
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Argent Stonecutter
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And here's the relevance to Second Life...
06-07-2009 05:19
I'm surprised nobody sees the parallels with Linden Labs' Adult Content Search changes. From: Joshooah Lovenkraft From: Microsoft A Microsoft spokesperson said Bing returns sexually explicit results only when a user turns off safe search. “By default, Bing filters out explicit image and video results. Consumers must take action to turn off the Safe Search filter in their settings in order for explicit image or video content to appear in Bing’s results.” In other words, basing the filtering on the keywords chosen and not telling people how to disable the filter when they see it... like Linden Labs is planning... is confusing and leads to bad PR. Basing the filtering on results and letting people click on a link in the results... like Google does... works better.
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