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Why Full Prims?

Jig Chippewa
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04-21-2008 09:05
Okay, this may seem like a stupid question but why aren't there half prims and quarter prims?
And what would happen if we could even cash lindens in trade for prims?
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04-21-2008 09:07
From: Jig Chippewa
Okay, this may seem like a stupid question but why aren't there half prims and quarter prims?
And what would happen if we could even cash lindens in trade for prims?


Because a full prim is always there--even when you cut path to a fraction. It's just transparant and non-physical.
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04-21-2008 09:12
Wow. I failed Maths in my 'O' Levels. I bet you know where electricity goes after it runs through the light bulb. Thanks - I think I understand it now. (Jig wanders off scratching her head and bumps into a lamppost)
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04-21-2008 09:18
From: Jig Chippewa
Wow. I failed Maths in my 'O' Levels. I bet you know where electricity goes after it runs through the light bulb. Thanks - I think I understand it now. (Jig wanders off scratching her head and bumps into a lamppost)

Because to count it as a partial prim would take more strain on the servers, I think. It'd constantly be referencing whether a prim is cut or not to say 'Oh hey that's only half a prim, you can have another one of those now'

Geometrically, they always have to remain a whole prim. If you notice, normal prims don't ever have a face that is completely blank unless you texture it alpha. When you cut, and hollow, and so on so forth, that lost space is taken up by the new faces and edges and such. It's always a whole prim.


Besides, if you could count it as a partial prim, then the servers would get overloaded with 'half prims' being used to double parcel prim count and such.
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Ron Khondji
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04-21-2008 09:27
From: I bet you know where electricity goes after it runs through the light bulb. [QUOTE


Me thinks the electricity goes home to electron, a small planet just north of Beetleguese, to rest a little before comming back for the next light bulb. Except for the lucky bastards that have some free time comming. They go to Spain.
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04-21-2008 09:43
It's because the prim count is simply a count of how many objects there are, it has nothing to do with their size. You could halve the size of a prim or double it, but either way it's still 1 object.

I mean, I'm assuming here that you mean prims which only count half for the number of prims on a parcel. If that isn't what you mean, well your question is rather vague.
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Marianne McCann
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04-21-2008 09:45
From: Jig Chippewa
Okay, this may seem like a stupid question but why aren't there half prims and quarter prims?
And what would happen if we could even cash lindens in trade for prims?


Um, you should *really* put the play dough back in the container an stop sniffin at it.

Path cutting/profile cutting/dimpling gets you all sorts of fractions of prims. As for lindens for prims, you usedta hafta pay lindens in order to rez them way back before me. Would you really wanna stifle content creation that much?

Mari

EDIT: Aunty Google passed this link to me:
http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2003/09/tax_revolt_in_a.html -- did things happen in such a, um, dramatic fashion?
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04-21-2008 10:14
From: Marianne McCann
As for lindens for prims, you usedta hafta pay lindens in order to rez them way back before me. Would you really wanna stifle content creation that much?

Hmmm. I guess that explains Magellan Linden's blog entry about contacting his broker after a primolium find; I'm guessing he won't be too happy about coming back from the void to discover that, among other things, advanced modern technology has rendered the need for primolium pretty much obsolete. :/
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04-21-2008 11:08
A prim is a prim is a prim. If you cut one in half, you get a whole prim that is half the size of the old prim. The server still has to account for it and store it, and the size of the prim in world doesn't really have any effect on the amount of storage space it takes. I assume you would only want fractional prims for the purpose of building within your prim limitations on your property. That's based on the amount of storage space you rent from LL (call it land ownership or whatever). Just as cones, boxes, spheres, etc. all count as one prim, regardless of shape, a fraction of one of them is still a prim - just a prim with a different shape.

I don't know if that makes sense the way I said it, but that's it in a nutshell. Size matters in love - but not in prims.
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Jig Chippewa
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04-21-2008 12:13
This is absolutely amazing stuff. Honestly, I really didn't know all this. Okay - so HOW do you people know this and I don't?? Play Dough, Mari?? Is that what it is called these days? Hahaha.
Now I know why I am never sent to cover science thingies n' stuff.
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04-21-2008 12:35
From: Jig Chippewa
Play Dough, Mari?? Is that what it is called these days? Hahaha.


That's what it's always been called, I tink. At least ever since it's come in those yellow cans.



Mari
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04-21-2008 12:41
A prim is the SL equivalent of a quark (smallest known particle of matter.) You can't split it. Until someone figures out how, that is.
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04-21-2008 13:21
From: Jig Chippewa
This is absolutely amazing stuff. Honestly, I really didn't know all this. Okay - so HOW do you people know this and I don't?? Play Dough, Mari?? Is that what it is called these days? Hahaha.
Now I know why I am never sent to cover science thingies n' stuff.


Everyone is correct in what they are saying. I read all of this in a book I purchased way back when I joined 2L.

Now as to the light bulb. Light bulbs do not really emit light. They absorb darkness and the electricity carries it away. Flourescent lights use less electricity because some of the darkness is stored in the tube. When the tube gets full you have to replace it. You can tell when they are full because the tube turns black on the end. Big flourescent lights are actually called "dark absorbers" like the shock absorbers on your car. The tiny dark absorbers used to replace light bulbs sold as "compact flourescents" store the darkness in the base of the socket. These things use dangerous chemicals such as mecury and phosphorous to hold in the darkness. Mercury is real heavy and holds the darkness down to keep it from escaping.

If yous ask about TVs and Radios then I'll have to explain the smoke theory of electronic devices.

"CX"
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04-21-2008 13:53
Jig--in edit mode, click on a prim that has been path cut to a fraction...

Click on STRETCH and you will see that the prim is still there... the markers for each side will still be in the place where the prim edges would be if it were full.