The Issue of Consignment
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Raven Pennyfeather
Registered User
Join date: 10 Sep 2004
Posts: 4
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07-29-2006 05:43
I wished to put out to those of us who rent vendor spaces the concept of consignment and get your take on this very sensitive issue. Do we allow others to sell off their inventory of designers work or do we ban? Thank you for your input
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sachi Vixen
Some Brit who makes stuff
Join date: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 606
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07-29-2006 06:29
I do rent space at Dickens ut so far they have been by invitation only or people who have asked me and I've checked out first. For me Dickens isn't a mall of any kind and I am particular who I have there. I even put the rents DOWN recently to take good care of my vendors.
I would not have a consignment store at Dickens. I don't like them and I am actually thinking of changing the method I have had since i started my business of selling all my clothes mod transfer to NO transfer because I don't want to think of someone else selling them off at a higher price and ripping people off. I set my prices according to the amount of work that was involved.
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Psyke Phaeton
Psyke's Defense Systems
Join date: 12 Oct 2003
Posts: 197
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07-29-2006 07:16
I think that if you have allowed transfer you have allowed reselling. The guild itself can't really have a policy on this because the members would have different opinions.
However this made me think of something else. What do we do, if anything, if a person buys 10 of our items for 500L and then resells them at a shop for 700L?
Is this a guild issue or the sellers issue? Is it even "illegal" or immoral?
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Kokoro Fasching
Pixie Dust and Sugar
Join date: 23 Dec 2005
Posts: 949
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07-29-2006 07:43
From: Psyke Phaeton However this made me think of something else. What do we do, if anything, if a person buys 10 of our items for 500L and then resells them at a shop for 700L? Is this a guild issue or the sellers issue? Is it even "illegal" or immoral?
I am just a buyer - so I can't say how it would be from a seller's point of view, but it is neither. It happens every day IRW - Item A is $20 at the mall store, or $15 at the Wallyworld store. If the seller is getting the amount they are happy for, and being paid for each item, how can they realistically complain. Will people be 'ripped off'? Possibly - but you can't wrap everyone in bubble wrap to protect them. If the item is clearly marked as to who the real creator is, and the seller doesn't want to look up the profile, see if there are other stores, or put any effort into it, how much more do you want to spoon feed people? Personally, I prefer my items copy/no tran, with either a gift certificate ability, or listed on SLX/SLB so that I can give gifts. I want copy so that I can make outfits and looks and not worry about it, and if the item is mod, have the ability to keep a backup copy. I have reached the point where I will not purchase no copy/no tran items any longer. I can not see a single justificable reason for that combo other than the creator being greedy - but that is just my perception.
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Psyke Phaeton
Psyke's Defense Systems
Join date: 12 Oct 2003
Posts: 197
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07-29-2006 08:51
copy/no trans is good for stuff worn but not always for independant objects.
I also agree, personally, that if I have made the money I wanted then the situatiion after that is not important to me unless it degrades my product in some way.
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Kokoro Fasching
Pixie Dust and Sugar
Join date: 23 Dec 2005
Posts: 949
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07-29-2006 13:37
From: Psyke Phaeton copy/no trans is good for stuff worn but not always for independant objects. I also agree, personally, that if I have made the money I wanted then the situatiion after that is not important to me unless it degrades my product in some way. True, I can see some items need to be no copy - but then you should have the option of trans. It is the no copy/no tran that gets me.. you are stuck with it regardless. But as far as reselling goes - it doesn't hurt the creator - they got their sale for each item. If someone can convince someone else to pay more for it, that just means they are a better sales person. *shrugs* Creators are not usually good sales people, and sales people are rarely good creators 
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Anjilla Alexander
Registered User
Join date: 26 Feb 2005
Posts: 30
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Resell
08-03-2006 17:26
I dont see what the problem is with ppl reselling our work as long as the dont sell it for MORE than they paid. It is THEIR product once they buy it form us. As long as they DONT put their nameo n it and it's not copiable for them to keep selling I dont see the problem. That woud be like macy's saying sorry you can't have a yardsale using stuff that you bought from us. Or telling consignment stores sorry you can't dot hat cuz you bought it from us to begin with. I love cleaning out my inventory selling off what I have and dont use so that I can go back to those same designers and buy their new stuff LOL c'mon guys lets not take this tooooo far *hugs*
PS.. What really is wrong with making objects transferrable? If they pay for it why can't the give it away or resell it once they are ready for a newer version. If we dont want them to get rid of it why keep making better versions? and if it's for the reason you put 100 of the same various thing in the box stop. Put ONE version of it in the box and then make it transferrable. *hugs*
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mcgeeb Gupte
Jolie Femme @}-,-'-,---
Join date: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 1,152
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08-03-2006 21:09
From: Anjilla Alexander I dont see what the problem is with ppl reselling our work as long as the dont sell it for MORE than they paid. It is THEIR product once they buy it form us. As long as they DONT put their nameo n it and it's not copiable for them to keep selling I dont see the problem. That woud be like macy's saying sorry you can't have a yardsale using stuff that you bought from us. Or telling consignment stores sorry you can't dot hat cuz you bought it from us to begin with. I love cleaning out my inventory selling off what I have and dont use so that I can go back to those same designers and buy their new stuff LOL c'mon guys lets not take this tooooo far *hugs*
PS.. What really is wrong with making objects transferrable? If they pay for it why can't the give it away or resell it once they are ready for a newer version. If we dont want them to get rid of it why keep making better versions? and if it's for the reason you put 100 of the same various thing in the box stop. Put ONE version of it in the box and then make it transferrable. *hugs* I do no transfer for several reasons: 1. Buyer loses transfer item and wants a replacment now what?? 2. Buyer says SL lost their item which happens alot lately. I can just give them replacement 3. I make a mistake and find out later, I can just send out replacements or updates 4. Buyer can make their own copies (especially useful for tintable items). Also with any prim skirts or hair, making a spare copy is useful just in case the prims get messed up. 5. I can put several variations of the same thing in the box which customers like better. Only advantage I see for transfer: 1. Buyer can resell.
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Psyke Phaeton
Psyke's Defense Systems
Join date: 12 Oct 2003
Posts: 197
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08-04-2006 03:34
From: mcgeeb Gupte Only advantage I see for transfer: 1. Buyer can resell.
and you can shop for a friend or buy gifts for friends. Gifts would be a huge part of shopping sales.
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