Help designing new default roles

How about a Host role?

Posting events seems broken right now. The behavior of who can post events on what land has always been kind of nebulous.

How about making it nice and clear with a "Host" role: This person can post events that take place on the land owned by this group.

I imagine that 90% of existing groups won't have need of what might end up being the most common additional roles, but as you say Kelly, they can be ignored or deleted. That said, "Host" is a good choice as Rifkin mentioned. "Client" might be another. That would cover renters, club attendees, customers, etc.

I think a "Terraformer" role would be a good idea, that way you can give certain people the ability to reshape the land without giving them the power to ban or return stuff. Likewise a "Security" role would be great so people (like me, a guardian at Serenity Woods) can eject/ban trouble makers from their protectorate without having land altering abilities.

Well, being large estates like Furnation are huge griefing magnets, I would suggest the role of "Security Officer" with powers of eject, ban etc and also have the ability to see avatar names on their green dots on the map so they can easily find a griefer who has run away to another part of a sim or estate. They must also be able to be ejected by the owner or any other officer to avoid abuse of power

Land manager
Recruiter
Security
Tenant
Customer
Agent

I would like some type of "executive" type role. Where, I could give a person all the rights over the land EXCEPT the ability to sell the parcel. Additionally, the person holding the executive position would have the ability to eject an officer from the group.

(I haven't been to the preview grid, so my apologies if something like this has already been integrated.)


Sun

Any 'security officer' role should also have the powers to bypass no build, no script, no fly, etc restrictions on a parcel, so that the security officer's weapons can be allowed to work. They might also want to have the power to change the ban list and invite/eject people from the group.

For anyone who has forgotten, this post has a basic summary of some of the permissions used in the roles system. It's probably not complete or up to date but it might prompt some ideas

Interface idea. It would be better if these "example" roles were not added emtpy to existing groups, only to be deleted by annoyed group owners. Instead, add a pop-up list of "Role Templates" from which these ideas, and many more, can be picked to add to a group, and then populated with group members.

This way, they aren't in the way, you can have many more, you can add more later, and they benefit both existing groups and groups yet to be created.

Better yet would be to make these templates inventory objects. Then both templates in the public Library and templates made and distributed by residents can be chosen from for addition to a given group. This would make more and more sense as the number of permissions available to set increases over time.

Clients/Customers is my suggestion

I think perhaps you are looking at this the wrong way. What if you had a system in place which would allow each person to be configured individually in the group without applying exact roles to each person.

Example. There could be another panel that pops up for each individual person with checkboxes. These checkboxes say "Add Members" "Eject" "Edit Land" "Set Media" "Ban" "Return Items". I'm sure you can think of additional checkboxes.

Each person can be given a different set of privileges from another person in the group. I often run into the problem of renting on group land and not being able to return people's clutter because I'm not an officer of the group. Group officers could give any member in the group the ability to do things that only officers were allowed to do previous.

What do you think?

Hazel, not that is a bad idea, but it is kindof late for that idea since the roles method has been coded already. But I prefer the role method because otherwise I would have to set everyone individually.

I understand. Perhaps you could initially have Role Presets for people and then fine tune them as necessary. Say you wanted to make someone group officer but didn't want them to add people to the group. You would give them the preset Officer, but would uncheck their Add Member permissions. As it stands now you're doing the same amount of work with a less specific result. I think making each person more highly configurable will solve a lot of problems.

Why not just wait and see... After a month or two you will see what combination of allowed actions come together most often.

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