The beginning of an era...
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Lucifer Kirkorian
Darth Knave
Join date: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 18
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03-12-2006 23:48
My friends, the Sith Legends is ready to talk role play. Next time I see a master, I will be giving them a notecard with our proposal. We shall hash out the specifics of the event once it's been reviewed. ALL plans are tentative and subject to change, I'm open to ideas so your input is appreciated. Let's write history together!
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Christien Suntzu
Seeker of Wisdom
Join date: 19 Dec 2005
Posts: 8
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Sounds great
03-13-2006 18:53
Sounds good. I have some tentative ideas for RP scenarios, so once we get accustomed to being in character, we can try them out.
I'm even up for impromptu games - just give me a heads up when you show up.
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Azlan Perun
Fox of the Force
Join date: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 13
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Sith
03-14-2006 02:10
I have found many Sith players in the past have lacked a measure of maturity needed to know what is roleplay and what is an excessive power trip. The past has left me with an impression that a fair majority have no respect for authority, rules or "fair" roleplay; they have been rather childish and very poor sports, existing on griefing and harassment that extends to non-RP areas.
Can you guarantee that this will not occur?
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Neo Sion
Darth Sion
Join date: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 2
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making a good group
03-14-2006 14:12
I'm sure we'll be a good group, we dont want grieffers and grieffers will be ejected inmediatly, we want a true roleplaying group and if u join you´ll find a good leader with good rp events,we'll try to dont have grieffers in our group but if u find one just let us know that and i promise he will be in big troubles. Enjoy the Darkside
Lord Sion
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Lucifer Kirkorian
Darth Knave
Join date: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 18
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03-15-2006 09:12
Lord Sion is right. As one of the founding members, I can garauntee that disrespect for other groups will be dealt with is the most harsh manner. I have no tolerance for that kind of thing. If one of my members is causing problems, please notify me immediately. Best idea is to put it on a note card and include as much information as possible. In order to deal with them properly, we need as much information as possible in order to decide the best course of action.
Come to the RP event on saturday at 12noon SL time in Dantooine. Once the event is over, the story will be posted for all to see. We're writing history as we go along....and if I told you the outcome of the story....you'd know that we're not trying show ultimate power at every opportunity....It would also ruin the fun of the event ^.^
Trust me, this will be good.
Christen, if you have any ideas for events as a group, flesh them out. Write a proposal, have it approved by the Jedi Masters, then send it to the Sith Legends Council. I can give you the process I went through to come up with what we're doing on saturday...just find me in game
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Azlan Perun
Fox of the Force
Join date: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 13
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A good impression
03-15-2006 15:00
That is definitely good to hear. I will not be re-joining the darkside however, that is not a path I shall walk again... it is paved in gold, the trees are coated in honey and it rains chocolate mint candies from the sky... someone just failed to mention the sudden drop at the end into a pit of flaming heck and eternal suffering. There always has to be a catch.
Perhaps we can have a philosophical discuss over the nature of darkness.
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Lucifer Kirkorian
Darth Knave
Join date: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 18
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03-15-2006 15:57
perhaps we could! I should be on around 8 or 9:00 tonight SL time. We could go to fluffys quarters in dantooine and have some coffee.
If youve read the code to the Sith Legends, youll see that our philosophy revolves around passion. Passion drives our lives, but that certainly doesnt mean that we're evil just because we're of the Dark Side...in or out of character. I have many examples of my real life to descrive how passion drives me. That's not to say that evil doesn't exist in the Dark Side, because it most certainly does. Evil is a thin line that parallels passion. There are many ways to walk the path, with or without crossing that line.
i dont know if that makes sense, i had a much better esxplanation, but i lost the whole paragraph.
keep up to date...we'll be launching a Sith Legends forum as soon as the lindens accept it.
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Azlan Perun
Fox of the Force
Join date: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 13
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03-15-2006 16:32
The Code of the Sith:
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
The Code of the Jedi:
There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the Force.
I am somewhat knowledgeable in the Lores surrounding the Force. The Code of the Sith, like that of the Jedi is highly flawed. Both adhere to absolutes which is an inherent flaw that is difficult to overcome when considering the meaning of these tenents. Such idioms are relative to situational influences and are not constants.
The idea behind these codes are of course not literal, but philosophical. They are both more akin to canons then laws, lofty goals to aspire to, but practically difficult to maintain.
The Sith code does hold valid points that do not require a ideaological adherence to evil to practice, but it is far to easily misconstrued and used for evil gains. The Sith overall do not hold allowance for compassion, friendship or true loyalty. Intimidation and fear are used to force others to remain serving their master's side, but by no other method can loyalty be maintained by the Sith as a whole.
I have committed my self to a philosophy that incorporates much of both orders and their codes, though this is something that the Masters will likely not approve of if they ever discover such knowledge.
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Lucifer Kirkorian
Darth Knave
Join date: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 18
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03-15-2006 19:22
You're absolutely right, the Sith Legends code can and often is used in evil ways to attain personal gain. I see nothing wrong with doing things for personal gain, because there is essence of personal gain in EVERYTHING that we do. The general practice that I dont believe in is harsh punishment of those not deserving of something that severe. I also agree that holding allowance for compassion is something that many choose not to have. Personally, I show compassion only for those deserving of it. When are they deserving of it? That goes back to what I said about personal gain. If they have helped me at one point, I will show them compassion should the time comes. Not only does this repay my debt to them, but it establishes a relationship to benefit us both in the times to come. If someone tries to stand in the way of my achieving my goals...then I show no compassion for them whatsoever, and I must remove them from my path by any and all means necessary. I lead my group by the ideals that I believe in. The New Order of the Jedi have helped me in a time of need, and I will be touching on that somewhere down the way as we write history together. This is the reason behind my strict rules of respect to anyone who enters cloud city. I lead my second life and my real life on passion. I am an artist in real life, a graphic designer to be specific. In second life, I've found an artistic outlet in writing. Passion drives all aspects of my life. Am I dark? I certainly am....but am I evil? well that depends on who's asking the question EDIT: The Sith Legends forum is operational! Visit us and post! /invalid_link.html
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Azlan Perun
Fox of the Force
Join date: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 13
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03-16-2006 19:02
Indeed, but it is not only the Code of the Sith Legends, but that of your predecessors in the ancient Sith Empire. Even I do not know the origin of the code, but it was likely created over 7,000 years ago by those Dark Jedi that dominated Ziost so long ago.
Your explanation of how your compassion works is quite revealing. This is, however, where our philosophies must differ somewhat. Removal of obstacles by any means necessary can be quite ruthless and unnecessary.
Not all beings operate under the auspice of an expectation for personal gain and the viewpoint is somewhat narrow that the essence of personal gain exists in all things that we do. It is a logical extrapolation and I can see how and why you see that, but there is a VAST difference in acting to achieve a gain and merely acting and receiving a gain without expectation of such.
Still, it is exciting stuff and most pleasing to discuss it.
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Lucifer Kirkorian
Darth Knave
Join date: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 18
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03-16-2006 21:48
Not even I know the exact origins of the Sith code, it has been passed down from master to apprentice for many, many years as I understand it.
Removal of obstacles by any means is only ruthless if it has to be. Generally, even if someone stands in my way, I always try the honorable way out. Ask them nicely, or simply ignore them. However, when they persist on being an active part of my life and actively trying to stop me from attaining my goals, to me, that means they have crossed the line of declaring war a long time ago.
Sure I could just cut them down where they stand, and most people do. However I find that the most satisfying way of ridding someone from your path is to cause them to WANT to leave. Make THEM hate YOU so much that they dont want to have anything to do with you. Once that has happened, you are both essentially working towards the same goal...which is to no longer be in each others lives.
Granted not everyone acts for personal gain, and even those with the goal of personal gain do things purely for another persons benefit. You are right about the difference between acting to gain and acting and receiving a reward. Generally though, when one acts and receives a reward, they did not have a goal to acheive. In a real life application, everyone has goals (or so I like to think), so even if they do something for their own gain...they are still doing things elsewhere specifically in order to achieve a goal.
In real life, I believe in the teachings of Tom Leykis when it comes to money and success.
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Azlan Perun
Fox of the Force
Join date: 17 Sep 2005
Posts: 13
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The Darkside
03-17-2006 10:45
Betterment of the self is an essential step in self-actualization and it is not bad thing, definitely not the stuff of the dark side. The theory behind growing in knowledge, skill and power for a Jedi is to refine the influence extended over the Force with the intent of the betterment of themselves in order to provide a vessel to better serve the needs of others. This is by no means exclusively selfless action, it is nearly impossible to be truly selfless, as such has a high amount of detrimental consequences, not the least of which are physical (giving of all of one's life sustaining sustenance to others, suffocating so others will not be deprived of oxygen, etc.). While there are those who might do such in a dire situation, I cannot bring myself to do such things, even though it is possible for a Force user to draw upon the Force itself to sustain one's self, this method greatly weakens the physical form and reduces the effectiveness of the Jedi. I believe, in many cases, that I am the most likely to suceed then others and therefore must maintain myself as best as I am able in case of stress, strife and conflict with those that seek to do us harm. I can succeed therefore, I MUST be the one to continue. I blame this mindset on my lengthy journey along the dark path, one I walked for several hundred years before discovering the existance of the light. It is interesting to note how subjective our perceptions of right and wrong, good and evil. These are concepts created by the reasoning mind and though the base origin of these concepts are ingrained within the universe and the very fabric of the force, they do not take shape until a conscious will exerts itself upon them. I was raised in an environment devoid of the the Light side of the force, a culture which was embroiled with the dark side and a world bathed in its origins. (OOC note: if you consider the point, a complete dark side world is not unlike our own Earth, just somewhat darker... pure and brutal evil would be just as reviled as on any Light side dominated world. Just consider how our governments operate and the basic mindset of the average person. It is not so far off) Many of my people could wield power, but never was it a pure evil and chaotic world. Laws existed, strong laws, there were most definitely moral guidelines on how things were done. Murder, rape, atrocities were reviled by all... as they should be, because they serve no purpose. Government organizations operated with a certain amount of moral flexibility and everyone acted along the lines of their own self-interest as any people do as a whole. The influence of the dark side did attribute to a significant amount of violent crime and empire building in ancient times and far more wars were waged then normal. Were the people EVIL? By one-sided, narrow-visioned and very biased evaluation of the modern Galactic Civilization and those Jedi who can only see the Black and White of things... YES. Do the people consider themselves EVIL... NO. So who is right? (OOC Note 2: Azlan has mentioned many a time of his origins and senatorship from the past on a planet called Esseles. See: http://starwars.wikicities.com/wiki/Esseles. All modern records of this core world do not specify any Dark side origins, nor is this planet in any way strong in the Dark side)
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