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Nezu Garside
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06-18-2008 19:31
My friends and I have been buying a lot of SLDVD's lately and we were wondering if anyone would care to tell us how they are made?
Robustus Hax
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06-19-2008 12:42
Theres no such thing as an SL DVD.

If you're buying what I think you're buying, its an illegal bootleg video file from people hosting servers in Korea, nonetheless, its illegal, so buy at your own risk.
AWM Mars
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06-19-2008 16:45
Its a misconception, you are not actually buying a DVD as you would in RL, what you are buying is a prim that contains a script and NC that holds a url link to some dubious server that hosts a lot of bootleg and no doubt ilegal movies, that when placed near a player made by the same supplier, will read that information and play the movie.
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Nezu Garside
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06-19-2008 20:32
Are you sure? Some proof to this claim would be nice. I understand that there is a lot of illegal activities no matter what you are doing and no matter where you are, but for such a popular business in SL, some proof of this would be appreciated as I own several and all the movies I have seen throughout the game have been out of theatres from months to years.
Robustus Hax
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06-19-2008 21:37
I think if the business is legal they would be glad to offer up proof of legitimacy. If they come up with legal proof they have the rights to distribute these movies than they are for real, but if that were the case, don't you think it would make headlines? Renting legal movies in SL would be big news.
Nezu Garside
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06-19-2008 23:17
Even if it was illegal, wouldn't it be big news anyways? I mean people flock to this kind of thing regardless of advertisement anyway.
Robustus Hax
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06-20-2008 11:18
From: Nezu Garside
Even if it was illegal, wouldn't it be big news anyways? I mean people flock to this kind of thing regardless of advertisement anyway.



I always thought so but I assume most people who buy them must know they are illegal and therefore rather keep it under the radar.
Nezu Garside
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06-20-2008 14:58
Well, I always figured that if the movie makers have some kind of deal going on with the movie companies, it would be legal and I only wanted to do this for DVD's me and my friends personally owned that way we could watch them together in case some of us were out of town. Yes, we are movie nuts. >.>
AWM Mars
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06-20-2008 15:14
If you read the copyright notices displayed on all DVD's and VHS tapes since they started making them, and spelt out in some brain numbing mini movie about stealing, you are not entitled to resell, rebroadcast through any media network including the internet, make copies for the purposes of any form of distribution etc etc blah blah.... whether it is for money or not.
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Crunch Underwood
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06-20-2008 15:20
i would like to see some more proof as well, i buy quite a few movies to watch in SL and always go to the same place which has been there since well befor i started SL. concidering it spans a whole sim with the video section being at least a Qtr sim, you would think it would have been shut down if it was indeed illegal

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Ordinal Malaprop
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06-20-2008 15:23
I don't know - I find it quite likely that a movie industry which spends millions every day irritating people with all sorts of anti-piracy messages would hand over film-displaying rights to a random nobody in Second Life for free distribution for pennies without it being mentioned anywhere ever.
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Nezu Garside
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06-20-2008 19:21
From: AWM Mars
If you read the copyright notices displayed on all DVD's and VHS tapes since they started making them, and spelt out in some brain numbing mini movie about stealing, you are not entitled to resell, rebroadcast through any media network including the internet, make copies for the purposes of any form of distribution etc etc blah blah.... whether it is for money or not.


Yes, we read the copyrights, how can you miss them? However that law speaks of reselling them or providing them free-to-air. You are entitled to back up your movies in any form and media that you desire so long as you own the original or proof that you have owned an original version. And why wouldn't they write up a contract with someone wanting to sell movies over Second Life, it is more money for them because people who buy these movies on SL, probably will go out and buy them in real life for the higher quality. So yes, that is my thinking too.

And if anyone here claims to be 100% legal on the idea of bootlegged medias, they lie.
Robustus Hax
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06-22-2008 10:03
From: Nezu Garside
Yes, we read the copyrights, how can you miss them? However that law speaks of reselling them or providing them free-to-air. You are entitled to back up your movies in any form and media that you desire so long as you own the original or proof that you have owned an original version. And why wouldn't they write up a contract with someone wanting to sell movies over Second Life, it is more money for them because people who buy these movies on SL, probably will go out and buy them in real life for the higher quality. So yes, that is my thinking too.

And if anyone here claims to be 100% legal on the idea of bootlegged medias, they lie.



But the problem is you pay this person to watch the movie, all you have to do is look at your media URL and see the link to this "DVD" download and give it out. If this was legit, there would be no way in hell you'd be able to physically download a movie file or distribute the link to multiple people
Ordinal Malaprop
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06-22-2008 10:08
From: Nezu Garside
And why wouldn't they write up a contract with someone wanting to sell movies over Second Life, it is more money for them because people who buy these movies on SL, probably will go out and buy them in real life for the higher quality. So yes, that is my thinking too.

Those DVDs that people sell in pubs - why wouldn't the companies sell DVDs in pubs? I assume that they must be legal.
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Atom Burma
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06-22-2008 11:43
So you ask if they are illegal, then when people tell you they are, you say, well no that can't be. K factor in this. How much does it cost to liscence a movie to play on the air of a television network. Especially if this is a movie that was just released onto video. Oh let's just say 1/4 million just to get a figure out there. I am sure it is double or triple that, if not more. There are reasons that networls don't play new releases, that would be because the overhead is so high. Now lets talk about renting a SLDVD, what's that oh maybe 3000L, what's that, about 10USD. Can you realistically think this to be a feasable effort on the part of the video company to raise the cash to make a profit? That would be at the least 25,000 residents whom would have to rent a movie, every day, just to cover this liscencing. And I was being generous, in actuality it is probably over a million USD to cover the liscencing to air a new release. You can think what you like, but don't just avoid the answers you get.
Nezu Garside
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06-23-2008 09:46
From: Robustus Hax
But the problem is you pay this person to watch the movie, all you have to do is look at your media URL and see the link to this "DVD" download and give it out. If this was legit, there would be no way in hell you'd be able to physically download a movie file or distribute the link to multiple people


Actually, if you take the Media URL and copy and paste it into your web browser, and I've only tested this on movies by B.C.C., it redirects you to the SL home page.

Atom:: All I did was merely ask for proof of these accusations. The punishment for these accusations can result in serious fines and jail time for all parties involed. Linden's, seller and buyer alike. I understand the amount of money involved in airing a brand new movie, but if you look into it, all the SL companies out there selling movies only release movies several months to a couple years old and call them new releases then. The time span on those releases also point out that people will have plenty of time to get the actual DVD's from the store and in some cases, view them on television.
AWM Mars
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06-23-2008 18:56
Although I will not name names, I have seen first hand in SL 'stores' openly selling 'dvds' in SL that the movies haven't left Hollywood. They have the graphics on the cases and everything. If you purchase a dvd or other movie format, you are only entilted for private viewing, not rebroadcasting over any other means such as the internet, which ALL dvd's in SL most certainly are. You do not have the rights for resale, leasing, renting.

ATM.... this piracy trading is worth what? 250L$ a dvd? Less than a dollar.... Perhaps when the trade hits a million or two... Time Warner etc may just nudge LL and say, hey, sort that out. And they can do that how? and Why? LL don't host nor stream any of the media content, how will they police it?

One thing is for certain, It's ilegal.
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