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Curious Hazelnut

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Join date: 21 Dec 2008

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01-24-2010 09:23

For the last few days I've been messing around with some alternate viewers. Emerald has some nice features but my framerate drops to around 15-20 fps in an otherwise low-lag sim. Snowglobe on the other hand is giving me 45-55 fps in the same place with the same graphics settings. (wow!)

Unfortunately, I can't get video streaming to work at all on Snowglobe. It works fine on the standard SL Viewer as well as Emerald. I tried both the "release" Snowglobe and the RC0 for the next release. Is there some trick I'm missing to get Snowglobe to play nice with streaming video?

Nika Talaj

now you see her ...

Join date: 2 Jan 2007

Posts: 5,449

01-24-2010 09:39

Hi Curious, welcome to the forums!

I don't know from MACs, but I do know that Snowglobe has made changes to playing media that hatched a hive of bugs. I think they're trying to track them in this Jira:
https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-383

Do you get a message about a failed plugin or anything when you try to play media? What do you see, the default media texture for that panel, or a Quicktime "loading" texture, or does it go gray?

Some Windows users have been able to get it to work better by upgrading Quicktime.

p.s. Yes, Emerald is slower to rez than Snowglobe. If you like the features of Emerald, there IS a Snowglobe + Emerald build on the Emerald website. Haven't tried it myself, and not sure it's available for the MAC.
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Curious Hazelnut

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Join date: 21 Dec 2008

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01-24-2010 10:24

Thanks Niki. I've added a Jira.

It looks like it starts to play (media texture changes to grey/start) but the video/audio never starts. No error messages. Exact same stream works fine in other viewers and directly with Quicktime.

SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

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01-24-2010 10:42

From: Curious Hazelnut

Emerald has some nice features but my framerate drops to around 15-20 fps in an otherwise low-lag sim. Snowglobe on the other hand is giving me 45-55 fps in the same place with the same graphics settings. (wow!)

Emerald can be set up to use either the llKDU.dll or the OpenJPEG.dll which I think are for decompressing the textures LL sends to our viewers. You will get slower results if you are using the OpenJPEG.dll. You can tell which one you have in Help About Second Life . The dlls in use are listed near the bottom of that display.

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Danaeah Ballinger

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Join date: 7 May 2007

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Snowglobe experience

01-26-2010 13:52

I used Snowglobe from July to October on both a mac and a pc, because the frame rate was significantly better than the LL viewer. However, upon reloading the LL viewer, I had serious issues with textures; some unique art I had purchased and half the walls in my skybox went gray and stayed gray (through cache clearing and on both machines) until the sim owner did a rollback. In addition, I Ruthed (that hasnt happened in a while) and permanently lost the skin and eyes I was wearing (I hope we *all* have backups of all body parts in seperate folders).

I tried Snowglobe again in Dec. for one day, and going back to LL had to clear the cache, and then walk away for about 10 min before the textures finally came in.

Twice burned, I am not going to use Snowglobe again, especially with a major LL rev. pending. There are various annoyances with the default viewer (I moved to Snowglobe during the infamous "black leg" version), but there is a certain safety in *being* the default that now outweighs that for me.

Danaeah

Snowglobe and Playing Media
Curious Hazelnut Registered User Join date: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 3	01-24-2010 09:23 For the last few days I've been messing around with some alternate viewers. Emerald has some nice features but my framerate drops to around 15-20 fps in an otherwise low-lag sim. Snowglobe on the other hand is giving me 45-55 fps in the same place with the same graphics settings. (wow!) Unfortunately, I can't get video streaming to work at all on Snowglobe. It works fine on the standard SL Viewer as well as Emerald. I tried both the "release" Snowglobe and the RC0 for the next release. Is there some trick I'm missing to get Snowglobe to play nice with streaming video?
Nika Talaj now you see her ... Join date: 2 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,449	01-24-2010 09:39 Hi Curious, welcome to the forums! I don't know from MACs, but I do know that Snowglobe has made changes to playing media that hatched a hive of bugs. I think they're trying to track them in this Jira: https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/SNOW-383 Do you get a message about a failed plugin or anything when you try to play media? What do you see, the default media texture for that panel, or a Quicktime "loading" texture, or does it go gray? Some Windows users have been able to get it to work better by upgrading Quicktime. p.s. Yes, Emerald is slower to rez than Snowglobe. If you like the features of Emerald, there IS a Snowglobe + Emerald build on the Emerald website. Haven't tried it myself, and not sure it's available for the MAC. .
Curious Hazelnut Registered User Join date: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 3	01-24-2010 10:24 Thanks Niki. I've added a Jira. It looks like it starts to play (media texture changes to grey/start) but the video/audio never starts. No error messages. Exact same stream works fine in other viewers and directly with Quicktime.
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	01-24-2010 10:42 From: Curious Hazelnut Emerald has some nice features but my framerate drops to around 15-20 fps in an otherwise low-lag sim. Snowglobe on the other hand is giving me 45-55 fps in the same place with the same graphics settings. (wow!) Emerald can be set up to use either the llKDU.dll or the OpenJPEG.dll which I think are for decompressing the textures LL sends to our viewers. You will get slower results if you are using the OpenJPEG.dll. You can tell which one you have in Help About Second Life . The dlls in use are listed near the bottom of that display. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Danaeah Ballinger Registered User Join date: 7 May 2007 Posts: 22	Snowglobe experience 01-26-2010 13:52 I used Snowglobe from July to October on both a mac and a pc, because the frame rate was significantly better than the LL viewer. However, upon reloading the LL viewer, I had serious issues with textures; some unique art I had purchased and half the walls in my skybox went gray and stayed gray (through cache clearing and on both machines) until the sim owner did a rollback. In addition, I Ruthed (that hasnt happened in a while) and permanently lost the skin and eyes I was wearing (I hope we all have backups of all body parts in seperate folders). I tried Snowglobe again in Dec. for one day, and going back to LL had to clear the cache, and then walk away for about 10 min before the textures finally came in. Twice burned, I am not going to use Snowglobe again, especially with a major LL rev. pending. There are various annoyances with the default viewer (I moved to Snowglobe during the infamous "black leg" version), but there is a certain safety in being the default that now outweighs that for me. Danaeah

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