Damm 2nd life.......
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Naima Aya
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Join date: 8 Aug 2007
Posts: 10
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08-09-2007 06:09
Hi... I have an Ibook OS 10.4.10 1 giga Ram.. I've instaled the new version of 2ndlife with voice and this creepy damm program it's allways crashing. Damm. I've tryied clean the cache, reinstall everything, see up my connection and the problem persists.
I have a premium account and i'm going to quit, the is no assitance. And I pay to have problems and course, I have to resolve by my self.
Pretty done the bug yesterday, but Grid now is online, I just see the main page on 2nd life and the programs freeze until crash.
I'm a little bit tired of this. No body gives answers and the problems doens't apear to reach.
Damm Team of 2nd life. Sorry but I have to say that.
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Plato Cochrane
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Join date: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 234
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08-09-2007 06:20
I used to have problems with SL crashing too, so I can sympathize. However, that's not always the fault of the program. Since I ugraded my intel Macbook Pro to 2gigs of RAM it has helped tremendously and I rarely crash unless I have an internet connection problem. I think as we progress through SL updates, slowly it will require better and better hardware. I think the Ibook you have with what I'm assuming is the G4 processor can't cut it anymore. It was probably voice which finally pushed your computer over the edge.
If you can afford it, Apple released some spiffy new Imacs yesterday that would run SL like a breeze. They also recently updated the Macbook Pro line.
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Naima Aya
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Join date: 8 Aug 2007
Posts: 10
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08-09-2007 07:09
Ok, thnks for the answer.. But I don't use (turned off) the voice... The 2nd life page says about 512 mb Ram.. Why should I put 2 giga of Ram!??
Says:
Mac Minimum System Recommendations:
Internet Connection*: Cable or DSL
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4.3 or better
Computer Processor: 1.25 GHz G4 or better
Computer Memory: 768MB or better
Video/Graphics Card**: nVidia GeForce FX 5600, GeForce 6600, or better OR ATI Radeon 9600, X600, or better
My Ibook has this and more.
The problem seems to be on the bug Network connection reported on 2nd life Blog. Since yesterday I a nightmare this creepy software.
Or it's the grid or it's their network....................
I don't think it's necessary to buy a new Mac.... Their own problems aren't resolved yet.
So why i have to report crash if even they don't do nothing !??? At list, they don't even gives you a satisfaction.
I love the 2nd life, but not like this. Maybe in the future, I can pay to have a good service, until there, i'm just going to quit.
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Sedary Raymaker
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Join date: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 59
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08-09-2007 08:12
From: Naima Aya The 2nd life page says about 512 mb Ram.. Why should I put 2 giga of Ram!?? Because, like every other software company, LL's requirements are just enough to get the program running without it actually doing anything or without your computer doing anything else.
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Plato Cochrane
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Join date: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 234
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08-09-2007 13:22
Well, I wouldn't buy a whole new computer just for SL unless I had a lot invested in the game either. Although you meet the minimum system requirements, the truth is SL really isn't usable unless you have a newer machine. I don't think those minimum system requirements have been reviewed for awhile by LL anyway. The only people I know who can play SL adequately on a G4 have the last generation powerbook with a powerful video card with maxed out RAM. They had problems as well. In order to avoid frustration, I would wait until you need a new computer for other reasons and when you buy it in a year or two come back.  By then, (hopefully SL will still be online lol) and the virtual world may be a better place anyway.
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Gistya Eusebio
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Join date: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 112
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08-09-2007 17:10
Well I have a brand-new MacBook Pro and SL crashes on this all the damn time, much more often than it ever did on my G4. So getting a new computer is likely to make your problems worse, not better.
Of course when I run it under Vista, it works fine. Go figure.
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Klang Wopat
"The Consultant"
Join date: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 212
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08-13-2007 11:48
From: Gistya Eusebio Well I have a brand-new MacBook Pro and SL crashes on this all the damn time, much more often than it ever did on my G4. So getting a new computer is likely to make your problems worse, not better.
Of course when I run it under Vista, it works fine. Go figure. Yep, I'm confused by all this. I want to get a Mac, just so I can get the hell out from under Microsoft, but I've seen lots of posts like this. Right now I have two laptops running Vista, a laptop and a desktop running XP SP2, and they all work great, as far as SL is concerned. I've played around with OSX on a couple of MacBook Pros, and it's incrediably slick compared to anything MS has to offer, which is why I want one. What gives?
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Belaya Statosky
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Join date: 3 Jun 2004
Posts: 552
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08-13-2007 12:09
From: Gistya Eusebio Well I have a brand-new MacBook Pro and SL crashes on this all the damn time, much more often than it ever did on my G4. So getting a new computer is likely to make your problems worse, not better.
Of course when I run it under Vista, it works fine. Go figure. Confirmed. I retired a PowerMac G5 that I used to run SL, because despite it running SL slower than my Windows machine, it never crashed the client either. That slowly changed over time and I got dumped fairly regularly enough to be an annoyance but not enough to make things impossible. I recently bought the brand new MacBook Pro (2.4Ghz C2D, 4GB of RAM, 256MB VRAM GeForce 8600M) as a way of consolidating my two desktops and while it performs quite well at SL so far as framerate -- but when I run SL sometimes it will suddenly halt the machine. For about 15~20 seconds it'll be completely non-responsive and sometimes it doesn't come back from the brink at all. This is *only* while running SL and it happened before I really tricked out the new machine and continues to do so now, so I know it's pretty much happening on a stock laptop. Michi Lumin also has the same issue with her MacBook Pro, though if I recall it's the model before mine. We both, however, consider this to be a step backwards, especially given when this issue crops up it doesn't just affect SL but everything else you'd be doing on the laptop at that moment. That's kinda unacceptable.
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Sioban McMahon
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Join date: 1 Mar 2007
Posts: 203
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08-16-2007 05:49
From: Plato Cochrane I used to have problems with SL crashing too, so I can sympathize. However, that's not always the fault of the program. Since I ugraded my intel Macbook Pro to 2gigs of RAM it has helped tremendously and I rarely crash unless I have an internet connection problem. I think as we progress through SL updates, slowly it will require better and better hardware. I think the Ibook you have with what I'm assuming is the G4 processor can't cut it anymore. It was probably voice which finally pushed your computer over the edge.
If you can afford it, Apple released some spiffy new Imacs yesterday that would run SL like a breeze. They also recently updated the Macbook Pro line. I just upgraded from a several year old G4 iBook to a MacBook Pro and am having MORE problems. SL is a lot faster now, but I crash about every 15-20 minutes. Hard crashes, too. I can't just reopen SL. The crash does something weird to my internet connection (browsers, email, SL won't recognize that a connection exists) and I have to restart my machine. Yes, Every 15 - 20 minutes I have to restart my machine. Every other program I have works great and I'm thrilled with the MacBook Pro other than with SL.
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Klang Wopat
"The Consultant"
Join date: 19 Sep 2006
Posts: 212
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08-16-2007 13:54
Wow, this is totally bumming me out. I was hoping to consolidate all of my windoze crap onto one top-end MBP, in an attempt to simplify my life. Now I'm reconsidering....
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Clinton Oddfellow
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Join date: 7 Sep 2005
Posts: 64
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08-17-2007 17:57
The whole macbook pro thing is a software problem, with the nVidia drivers, Mac OS X, and Second Life. Things will sort themselves out as various people start releasing patches for things, I would hope. My 17" MBP has the annoying SL crashtastic problems as well, but I'm patient enough to wait for a software update.
Cheers!
CCC
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Gistya Eusebio
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Join date: 14 Mar 2006
Posts: 112
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08-17-2007 20:21
From: Belaya Statosky Confirmed. I retired a PowerMac G5 that I used to run SL, because despite it running SL slower than my Windows machine, it never crashed the client either. That slowly changed over time and I got dumped fairly regularly enough to be an annoyance but not enough to make things impossible.
I recently bought the brand new MacBook Pro (2.4Ghz C2D, 4GB of RAM, 256MB VRAM GeForce 8600M) as a way of consolidating my two desktops and while it performs quite well at SL so far as framerate -- but when I run SL sometimes it will suddenly halt the machine. For about 15~20 seconds it'll be completely non-responsive and sometimes it doesn't come back from the brink at all. This is *only* while running SL and it happened before I really tricked out the new machine and continues to do so now, so I know it's pretty much happening on a stock laptop.
Michi Lumin also has the same issue with her MacBook Pro, though if I recall it's the model before mine. We both, however, consider this to be a step backwards, especially given when this issue crops up it doesn't just affect SL but everything else you'd be doing on the laptop at that moment.
That's kinda unacceptable. Yes, it's VERY unacceptable, and Linden Labs seems to be quite slow about patching this issue. I don't see why it should take them multiple months to fix this... this computer has been out since June 5th. It's the flagship laptop. People are buying it specifically to do 3D stuff like Second Life. Why the hell would they not make sure it runs good on this? -=GE=-
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