Second Life Forums Archive - SOLUTIONS! SOLUTIONS for the 10.3.9 Minority!

Caledonia Skytower

Registered User

Join date: 13 Aug 2008

Posts: 6

10-07-2008 15:25

GOOD NEWS for those of us who inhabit the apparent 1/4 of one percent of the Second Life User market by being people who still use our "ain't broke" Macs running OS 10.3.9 and who got screwed by last night's mandatory upgrade . . .

On the advice of a friend I went to www.onrez.com and downloaded the OnRez viewer put out by Electric Sheep Inc. It works with 10.3.9 and looks and feels strangely "MAC-ish" from back in the days when OS X first came out and the first IBooks and IMacs. Some of the terminology is different (Inventory is "Stuff"

and the controls are organized a tad differently, but I took to it right away. The graphics are much cleaner than they were in SL Viewer 1.19.4.

I am running an iBook G4 that is pre-intel, so I am hoping that this solution works for those of you out there who are like me and don't see the necessity to replace something that works fine in all other respects.

I also found Electric Sheep's website easy to navigate and with instructions and directions that were very accessible. That is more than I can say for Second Life!

Funkyfreddy Republic

Registered User

Join date: 16 Jun 2008

Posts: 9

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!

10-09-2008 10:09

I spent many frustrated hours yesterday trying to log on after SL FORCED ME TO UPGRADE! Major drag...... Thank you very much Caledonia for posting this fix! Please come to my gig tonight at Heron Island @ 6..... I was sweating yesterday that I would be locked out of SL and unable to play it!

Poor musicians like myself can't just go out and buy a new computer though I realize I have to upgrade soon.... and changing the OS on my old G4 is way more trouble than it's worth, especially as it streams and runs my music software very well, do a lot of playing and recording w this old machine!

Tinkerz13 Waco

Registered User

Join date: 15 Aug 2008

Posts: 3

OnRez

10-09-2008 15:42

I'm glad it's working for you as well.... I nearly feel out of my chair when I saw it worked. Let's thank OnRez for being for us all in our time of need.

Funkyfreddy Republic

Registered User

Join date: 16 Jun 2008

Posts: 9

it's working..... but....

10-10-2008 06:55

apparently having problems with my audio stream, which I'm told was skipping last night while I performed at HIPS?!?

Not sure if onrez would my affect my audio.... which is streamed by Nicecast... didn't think one would affect the other, but now I'm pissed off, dazed and confused, to say the least....

this forced upgrade has been quite a PITA for me!

Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

10-10-2008 08:41

WARNING:
If you read the OnRez release notes, they say NOTHING about having applied the security patches, so you're still vulnerable if you use the OnRez cleint.

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Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.

Viktoria Dovgal

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Join date: 29 Jul 2007

Posts: 3,593

10-10-2008 08:55

Boy Lane's builds are for Windows.

Hyang Zhao does do Cool Viewer builds for Mac, try http://hyangreflections.blogspot.com/ if curious. I believe these may be getting built on 10.5 Intel boxes. PPC running is spotty (the latest seems OK). I would be surprised if they can run on Panther at all but it can't hurt to try.

Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

10-10-2008 12:55

Thanks Viktoria. I edited out the reference to Boy Lane's versions of Cool Viewer when I realized they were Windows only. Must have been while you were typing your reply.

_____________________

Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.

Kara Spengler

Pink Cat

Join date: 11 Jun 2007

Posts: 1,227

10-22-2008 05:24

Does anyone know anything about a workaround to get a viewer that works on a PPC 10.3.9 box WITH the security patch?

Despite what some people claimed, I am unable to upgrade to 10.4 on that box so that is not an option. Ignoring the fact that 10.4 wants more resources, there is the fact that I rely on some programs that the manufacturers never ported to higher OS versions for who-knows-why.

Milla Janick

Empress Of The Universe

Join date: 2 Jan 2008

Posts: 3,075

10-22-2008 06:21

Boy Lane's Cool Viewer 1.19.0.5 runs on PPC Macs.

http://my.opera.com/boylane/blog/cool-viewer-1-19-0-5-for-mac

Oops, I see the Universal Binary version that was there a couple days ago has been replaced with an Intel version.

Try http://hyangreflections.blogspot.com/ for a PPC port.

Boy Lane

Evil Dolly

Join date: 8 May 2007

Posts: 690

10-22-2008 06:28

Please read this: /164/66/288587/1.html

I'm only playing around with the Mac versions. The latest I built for Intel only; to try to reduce the archive size. But Hyang is doing this already. Guess I will give the PPC version another shot. Stay tuned.

Boy

SOLUTIONS! SOLUTIONS for the 10.3.9 Minority!
Caledonia Skytower Registered User Join date: 13 Aug 2008 Posts: 6	10-07-2008 15:25 GOOD NEWS for those of us who inhabit the apparent 1/4 of one percent of the Second Life User market by being people who still use our "ain't broke" Macs running OS 10.3.9 and who got screwed by last night's mandatory upgrade . . . On the advice of a friend I went to www.onrez.com and downloaded the OnRez viewer put out by Electric Sheep Inc. It works with 10.3.9 and looks and feels strangely "MAC-ish" from back in the days when OS X first came out and the first IBooks and IMacs. Some of the terminology is different (Inventory is "Stuff" and the controls are organized a tad differently, but I took to it right away. The graphics are much cleaner than they were in SL Viewer 1.19.4. I am running an iBook G4 that is pre-intel, so I am hoping that this solution works for those of you out there who are like me and don't see the necessity to replace something that works fine in all other respects. I also found Electric Sheep's website easy to navigate and with instructions and directions that were very accessible. That is more than I can say for Second Life!
Funkyfreddy Republic Registered User Join date: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 9	Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! 10-09-2008 10:09 I spent many frustrated hours yesterday trying to log on after SL FORCED ME TO UPGRADE! Major drag...... Thank you very much Caledonia for posting this fix! Please come to my gig tonight at Heron Island @ 6..... I was sweating yesterday that I would be locked out of SL and unable to play it! Poor musicians like myself can't just go out and buy a new computer though I realize I have to upgrade soon.... and changing the OS on my old G4 is way more trouble than it's worth, especially as it streams and runs my music software very well, do a lot of playing and recording w this old machine!
Tinkerz13 Waco Registered User Join date: 15 Aug 2008 Posts: 3	OnRez 10-09-2008 15:42 I'm glad it's working for you as well.... I nearly feel out of my chair when I saw it worked. Let's thank OnRez for being for us all in our time of need.
Funkyfreddy Republic Registered User Join date: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 9	it's working..... but.... 10-10-2008 06:55 apparently having problems with my audio stream, which I'm told was skipping last night while I performed at HIPS?!? Not sure if onrez would my affect my audio.... which is streamed by Nicecast... didn't think one would affect the other, but now I'm pissed off, dazed and confused, to say the least.... this forced upgrade has been quite a PITA for me!
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	10-10-2008 08:41 WARNING: If you read the OnRez release notes, they say NOTHING about having applied the security patches, so you're still vulnerable if you use the OnRez cleint. _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Viktoria Dovgal … Join date: 29 Jul 2007 Posts: 3,593	10-10-2008 08:55 Boy Lane's builds are for Windows. Hyang Zhao does do Cool Viewer builds for Mac, try http://hyangreflections.blogspot.com/ if curious. I believe these may be getting built on 10.5 Intel boxes. PPC running is spotty (the latest seems OK). I would be surprised if they can run on Panther at all but it can't hurt to try.
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	10-10-2008 12:55 Thanks Viktoria. I edited out the reference to Boy Lane's versions of Cool Viewer when I realized they were Windows only. Must have been while you were typing your reply. _____________________ Sorry, LL won't let me tell you where I sell my textures and where I offer my services as a sim builder. Ask me in-world.
Kara Spengler Pink Cat Join date: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 1,227	10-22-2008 05:24 Does anyone know anything about a workaround to get a viewer that works on a PPC 10.3.9 box WITH the security patch? Despite what some people claimed, I am unable to upgrade to 10.4 on that box so that is not an option. Ignoring the fact that 10.4 wants more resources, there is the fact that I rely on some programs that the manufacturers never ported to higher OS versions for who-knows-why.
Milla Janick Empress Of The Universe Join date: 2 Jan 2008 Posts: 3,075	10-22-2008 06:21 Boy Lane's Cool Viewer 1.19.0.5 runs on PPC Macs. http://my.opera.com/boylane/blog/cool-viewer-1-19-0-5-for-mac Oops, I see the Universal Binary version that was there a couple days ago has been replaced with an Intel version. Try http://hyangreflections.blogspot.com/ for a PPC port.
Boy Lane Evil Dolly Join date: 8 May 2007 Posts: 690	10-22-2008 06:28 Please read this: /164/66/288587/1.html I'm only playing around with the Mac versions. The latest I built for Intel only; to try to reduce the archive size. But Hyang is doing this already. Guess I will give the PPC version another shot. Stay tuned. Boy

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