frequent kernal panics on 10.4.3 using newest SL

using a freshly installed version of tiger, updated to 10.4.3, and using the newest version of SL as of 11/26/05, i receive frequent kernal panics, forcing me to hard boot my imac numerous times a day. this seems to happen when i do anything at all, after being logged on for any exteneded period of time. no i dont use haxies or anything of the sort. i run disk utility frequently and clear my caches, run cron scripts, etc.

honestly, i dont know why im even reporting this. LL hasnt responded to any of my messages or emails concerning this problem. i would just love to see a release made public that did not but contain bug fixes and optimization for OS X.

i mean, i shouldnt be forced to reboot after i manually exit out of SL, leaving my system at a crawl every day. im running on a 1.8 ghz imac with a GeForce FX 5200 with 64mb ram, 2GB ram and a 250GB hd....its crazy that i can play WoW, Doom and many other high end games with no problem, yet SL brings me to my knees, even when i have it set to the lowest it can go settings-wise....

i wont even bother going on further or checking this thread. i vented. its up to LL now, and ive given up on them entirely.

Sorry to hear..I thought I had the same problems with the same configuration, but I had a PowerMac G5 1.8 ghz dual processor, not the iMac, with the same exact symptoms. I would have the G5 fan kick in overnight, so it wasn't just SL. I've had memory replaced, logic board replaced, formatted harddrive. My suggestion is to keep bugging Apple. Very few people with macs have serious problems and when they do, it has proved to be the machine itself. I escalated my problems all the way to customer relations who finally put me in touch with a tech that read the crash logs resulting in the kernal panic. I DID have to replace 3rd party memory with Apple memory before they believed that it wasn't a memory issue. It takes LOTS of patience so hang in there.

...i've previously had similar symptoms as rayne and SL is the only application which has ever induced kernel panics on my system...thankfully they've waned a good bit under recent updates, but there was a period during the upgrade cycle when i'd be slammed by three or four kernel panics a night...

...most of my own major stability issues have subsided of late save map access killing my DSL connection, but i identify with her frustration...i've just accepted that living with instabilities and a trickle of bugfixes is part and parcel of SL's evolution, and i can only relate to my own experience of doing my best to identify and avoid behaviors which bring things crashing down around me...new instabilities are inevitably introduced along the way, but they have slowly but surely been remedied piece-by-piece as LL issues updates...

For a bit of balance, I've had no problems with the latest version (10.4.3, 1.5 GHz G4, 1Gb RAM, 128Mb Radeon 9700).

I've had 3 or 4 panics on our 1.8GHz iMac, in addition to bizarre video problems with complex textures. I thought it was a 16MB (!) texture my neighbor was using but it's still happening in other areas. It also seems to be about 5x worse after the 1.8 update. I can't really buy a new computer just for SL, so I may have to give it up until it's time to replace my old 667MHz TiBook (which also gets the texture weirdness in additional to being way way too slow to really use SL at all).

Kernel panics are caused mainly by

- bad memory

- bad hardware

- bad drivers

- bad installation of the OS

- very rarely by bad applications

if SL was the cause of a panic I would expect it to happen to far more of us. I would suspect one of the other causes before SL.

If you've reinstalled the OS and still get panics, one thing I would ask is how long can you play before the panic occurs ? If the answer is more than 10 minutes I would suspect a problem with hardware, possibly showing up because of the heat generated from the graphics card or high memory being used that normally isn't used in your day to day use of the machine.

Those of you with texture issues, please see this thread:

/164/8d/74461/1.html

If textures are flashing really badly, toggle between full-screen and windowed mode (and vice versa). It's only a temporary fix, but it helps.

I'm not real clear on what a kernal panic is (I don't think I've had one), but my Mac does regularly freeze after playing SL for more than an hour without logging off.

I have to agree with this.

I have never had kernel panic on either of my two macs running SL and rarely had kernel panic at all.

In RL work in an environment with about 200 computers, all Mac, and a kernel panic is very rare and from the reports I get, almost always hardware related, especially if it repeats.

A panic is when the operating system crashes irrecoverably, the screen goes grey and little dark grey box appears in the middle of the screen telling you to power down the computer and restart it. Hopefully you will very rarely experience a kernel panic. A panic happening just once every few months is not that unusual, ( especially if you never shut the computer down ) but If you get one often and you are not confident to fix the problem yourself, call in some expert help asap.

i am on a 2 GHz PowerPC G5, with 512 MB DDR SDRAM and my OS is 10.4.3. I have had soo many kernal panic attacks with SL and only when using SL. I have reinstalled my OS too many times. It seems to me just a bad mix with the SL client and my imac. My imac is only 6 months old too.
Currently with the 1.8 SL client, within the first 5 mins of logging in, i crash. Not a regular crash either. Its a completely frozen screen, and i have to wait until my mouse comes back, and then force quit SL. SL usually doesnt give me a crash reporter either when this happens, because I am logging out of SL after the panic subsides just enough to quit the program. Then I restart the OS and SL runs smoothly enough for the rest of the hours i play. But thats only until I log in again the next day. I am living with this current situation alright, but I hope to add memory to my imac in the future. Also i hope with future 1.8 updates on the mac SL client, the kernal attacks will be suppressed.

If you can do anything at all, your Mac hasn't had a kernel panic. If one happens, the image on the screen will dim and you will get a message in about a dozen languages saying something to the effect of "a problem has occurred and you need to restart by holding down the power key". It means an unrecoverable error has happened in the most fundamental layer of the operating system.

To add to my previous data point about kernel panics in SL, and to agree with the point about how they are almost never caused by software (except for device drivers, I would add), the computer that was crashing in SL finally died outright. Opened up the back, and about half the capacitors on the main board were -bulging- to the point where it looked like they might explode.

Oh, THOSE! Yes, I do get that from time to time. I just restart, and no big deal, apparently. It never happens in any other software except when I'm playing SL.

So, what does that mean?

I'm a Mac poweruser. I currently have a Dual 2.0 G5, a intel iMac 20" and a MacBook. I've only run SL on my G5 - but this machine is in constant, hard use. Graphics, video, testing etc about 18 hours a day 6 or 7 days a week.

The ONLY time I've ever had a kernel panic on this machine is when I run SL.

I'll be trying it on both the MacBook and the iMac soon to see if I get similar problems.