The Average Joe

Hello. I am quite possibly the Everyman of SL.
Nice to meet you.

You see me everywhere. I have a decent sense of style, I dress how I like. I buy cool stuff and make cool stuff when I can.

I may or may not own a little patch of land, and that which I do own is mine. I ocasionally sell it when I think I can make cash, but its not a huge thing for me.

My income is 500/L a week, plus what I can make with little sales, offering assistance, or winning contests.

I dislike Tringo because of all the shouting but do indulge in the occasional game and don't think its the Game of Satan.

I don't own huge swathes of land, around a telehub or otherwise, I don't make my living with SL. I like to explore, go to clubs, fight in combat sims, play games, just basically have fun. (My personal obsession is putting on my flying goggles, getting in my ornithopter, and being an old-school explorer)

I am what most of the people in SL are. And I feel like we're the silent majority. THis is a game, overall. Its a distraction, a way to have fun. If you can make cash on it, great! More power to you, so please don't think I'm ripping on you just because you can make money.

However, don't think that because you have a huge business, or own massive swathes of land, and make all sorts of money, that you are what we all should follow. What is best for the maybe 2% of people making stupid amounts of cash is not best for the rest of us, and I'm sorry to have to say it.

The recent issue is P2P. I like P2P. It makes life easier for me and my friends, and in fact, every person I know is already really excited about all the possibilities, and most of it is frivolous. "Cool, real transporters!" "Wonder if we can put this in our dropship?" and so on. In fact, the first time I heard about an issue was the SLHerald covering it, with a couple of really rich people pissing and moaning about it.
Choices that are best for everyone are what is best for Second Life. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the majority of people do want P2P and I just happen to kno 20 or so anomilies.

It *wll*, however, at least keep us from having to hear "TP to club?" ever again, and that, my friends, is a good thing.

Your experience reflects mine on this issue, Harlequin. This is a good example of the feature voting system doing its job. We've heard that the tally of votes for a proposition is only one factor that influences LL decisionmaking, so we can't ask for the moon. But they've given us a direct democracy type of tool, and we've seen it working.

The tool needs improvement to stop voting by alts. If I have four avatars that does not make my opinion four times as valuable as the opinion of the guy with one avatar. Stopping alt voting is a technical problem, and I suspect that the solution might involve LL using the information they get when you sign up for your account. They know if you've reached the maximum number of avatars you can create with your account. so they could alter the rules to only allow one vote per account.

Harle <3

I agree with ya. P2P benefits everyone. Check out the "victory" thread started by Hiro Pendragon, the issue goes pretty deep with the new options. I might just be in that 2% you mentioned, but I still cannot figure out how P2P would be a detriment to anyone at all. If your business relies on telehub exposure (or rather did) then you're doing something wrong ("imo".

I -very- diliberately moved my business away from the telehub in Isabel for more reasons than I care to list here. Now my main shop is in a place called Hagen, a sleepy little sim, so to speak. Sales have gone up, not down. The nice thing about the internet, is that your server/homepage/webshop doesn't need to be located ten minutes from the customer's house for them to know it's there, they will find it regardless of location.

As far as the issues with the new P2P land parcel options that came with 1.8, check out Hiro's thread. My post is here:

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hoooray harlequin! great post! i agree with you entirely. i have a fairly successful sl biz as a designer, but i do all the silly fun shit too.

Of COURSE it's not. That would be SLingo.

P2

I must admit, I actually read this whole post! It's really refreshing to actually see a thread that doesn't end in camping, LL and SL sucks, money, buy me or anything of that nature... which usually gives my back button a hell of a workout before I can even read it.

We need more posts of this nature, without everything getting so negative.

bravo, average joe, bravo.

You sound like you are more than average Joe to me. I am the average Joe, I own nothing, I make no money beyond my stipend and camping out in a casino with a money ball, I have never played Tringo, slingo or any 'go game, I mainly hang out in the welcome area or a few clubs.

I have no idea what P2P means.

First off, Anisa <3

And Gazz:
Nonono. You're the average Schmo. A still honored position in SL, however, so no worries.

And to the rest, I'm actually surprised and honored I even got this much positive response, so thank you.

Just wish that the people who *are* overwhelmingly negative would learn the secret of "Letting Stuff Go." No chance of that, I suspect.

I concur

"I'm just here for the beer"

I like everyman characters because I'm a Stephen King fan—especially when they're challenging evil.



SL-ingo literally has devils!

Except if life (even SL) were like a stephen king novel, we would all be saved from (insert problem here) by a deus ex machina *g*

I do find it interesting that people all over were railing against P2P specifically, and yet none of them have weighed in on this post. Courage and convictions don't always mesh up, I guess. *chuckle*

that was a nice post *clap clap*

i'm a total newbie. I'm fresh blood.

I'm currently about 3 hours into secondLife.

I've bought some jeans and a top, took part in a formal dance and I smoke.

I'm still clueless about the building aspect, all the controls are over my head but slowly im getting to grips with SL.

I've a wallet and after christmas I'll subscribe and build a small base I can chill at.

i've met a few friends already and found people friendly.

I also saw shops, people selling wares, and read plenty of articles on people making cash on SL.

But these people are only doing what you all can do.. not make money ( do that if you so wish ) I mean build homes, add textures, create scripts and animations and other things ivenot discovered yet.

Sure people are lazy and can buy the things but hey. spend a week learning how to instead of a week on i want and the satisfaction is bound to be far greater with your own creation. plus its free.

I expect to wander into cool poepl, people who think im an easy buck and wierd people.

SL ( from my newbie outlook ) is kinda looking more like a " world where you live virtually and you can earn money " instead the " world where you live virtually and can fulfull your imaginiation" I'm after the latter but this silent majority will find another gaming system if the money makers make and are the biggest noise.

Peace out.

gamer of over 29 years and a hardcore FPS player looking for a bit of a fresh outlook on rpg kinda games.

Nonono... Ka.

(Or a "deus ex KA...." oh, I give up, I have nothing useful to add.)