Black list systems

"Black list systems" are basically just object that you place on your land that checks with a server and updates your "Ban" list with recent greifers. The people running the server update it based on there criteria of who should be on the list.

I know they exist

But are they good/bad or the future of SL?

They are in a way the start of a real police force since the people running the system have real power in there ability to ban people from a lot of places at a push of a button.

On the other hand if corruption sets in, land owners can remove the items.
Imagine if you could in RL chose which set of local police could enforce laws on your own property.

interesting... there are actually several global banlists in other 3D games, it could be an interesting experiment to make one for sl

I think you should tread lightly in regards to black lists. in history people for no reason were put on black lists. Not to say everybody is inocent. its just I sat in the main area on the main grid and watched certent people egg on the newbies on to get naked when it was a PG area then turnaround and say I'm reporting you.

Blacklists were enevitable when LL opened up registration. The concept of blacklists were always used in SL between friends, just now its become neccisary for communities to ban together (no pun intended) to defend themselves from the now exponentially increasing griefer problem. Now I do not agree with an unrestricted centralized global ban list since it does leave ALOT of room for abuse, however, one system in perticular is working on a solution to that problem. Its called BanLink and it uses multiple decentralized banlists that require an opt-in to accept the bans from other communities of your choosing.

Banlink allows you to only accept bans from a community who's banning policies are similar to your own. This system also requires a reason to be entered for the addition to the database to be valid and logs who/where the ban was issued in case there's an issue with someone trying to enter your community who's on the list. Three very important features BanLink has over many other blacklists is the ability to dispute a ban if you were added to the list, a sunset clause that removes the person from the shared database after a month assuming they don't get ejected from other communities using banlink, and a strike system wich allows the banlink user to set an eject threshold (defualt 3) before anyone is added to their banlist regardless of who's lists they trust. This is definitely a step up from classical blacklists and its reasuring to see someone trying to prevent blacklist abuse with a viable solution.

the only problem with banlink is that it will not prevent the "i trust my friends blindly rather than wondering why they banned you"

I wouldn't be able to ban people from my sims on another's advice unless I totally trusted that person's judgement. Even if you totally trust someone's integrity and intention, you still have to know that their judgement is similar to your own.

Blacklists between people that know each other well are something that are in use all over SL, and in that form they are handy. But I think a blacklist that is compiled by hundreds of people you don't even know is going to be a target of griefing itself.

The other way is to suggest a target for the blacklist. Then have members of an impartial council/officers to 'bait' the target user to see if they should or should not be on the blacklist. The only problem here would be locating the target in an obscure manner.

Obviously it would be better if the target had the opportunity to appeal the blacklisting in a just and impartial manner.

But if they were true griefers, even being blacklisted wouldn't really deter them. They'd just make another account and continue the process.


A blacklist formed from a number of popular places would not even need to remain secret. The sheer threat of being banned from so many great spots would deter griefers from acting up.

I prefer the public (and impartial) blacklist of doom to the other proposed methods. You wouldn't be able to blacklist an alt of someone already on the blacklist (as there is currently no exact way to proove this). But at least that gives the griefer the right to ammend their actions, or maintain an avatar that is "nice" and another that is purely for "griefing".