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Photorealistic Avs

Klaatu Quintus
I Market, Build & Script
Join date: 1 Aug 2006
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03-27-2007 14:40
I have a need for someone who is skilled at creating photorealistic avatars. I have RL clients who want their avatars to look like they do, including not only their faces, but their body shapes as possibly their way of walking and standing too.

Please contact me if you have some or all of these skills or know someone who does!

Klaatu
Kepster Cure
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Join date: 7 Jan 2006
Posts: 198
03-27-2007 14:46
I would contact Chip Midnight so that he may email you a packaged pdf on the process and it's costs, he is a talented artist and you can also get alot of useful tutorials off the stickied threads under content creation in the forums, sorry I didn't have time to insert the links because I am at work. Good Luck:D
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Namssor Daguerre
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03-27-2007 15:05
I have this service available. I can also give a price quote on anything not covered under the service.
Kepster Cure
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03-28-2007 09:48
I just checked out your site and you seem very professional but their are others offering the same for WAYYYYYY cheaper, sorry dude:(
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Sheena Gelfand
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Join date: 31 Aug 2006
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03-28-2007 11:15
From: Namssor Daguerre
I have this service available. I can also give a price quote on anything not covered under the service.


Namssor WOW!! That is totally amazing work and so detailed, you are very talented :)
Klaatu Quintus
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Join date: 1 Aug 2006
Posts: 23
03-28-2007 12:27
Namssor; awesome stuff. You're top of my list of candidates!

Kepster, dude, so who are all these cheaper people?!?
Petteri Yiyuan
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Join date: 4 Mar 2007
Posts: 56
03-29-2007 02:36
I am also looking custom avatar based on RL-photo and i have been looking service provider. Second Skin work seems to be really good and if he has time he is now top number in my list but i am also interested to hear if any other people are doing same and expecially where to find them.
Shirley Marquez
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Join date: 28 Oct 2005
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03-29-2007 10:22
From: Kepster Cure
I just checked out your site and you seem very professional but their are others offering the same for WAYYYYYY cheaper, sorry dude:(


Let's see... you're buying a service that requires hours of a skilled graphics professional's time. You're getting a one-of-a-kind product; something that the professional will not be able to resell to anybody else. US$395 sounds quite reasonable to me for what you are receiving, and Namssor's work is very high quality. (No, I won't be in the market for one any time soon; it's way out of my budget. $395 is more than my total annual expenses for Second Life. But if I had the money to spend and having an avatar that looked like my RL self were important to me, I'd consider it a reasonable price.)

As with many products in Second Life, you can probably find a less expensive provider. But as is so often the case, you get what you pay for. You can buy bargain-priced clothing, hair, and skins in-world, but the quality of craftsmanship is rarely the equal of the higher-priced products.
Namssor Daguerre
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Join date: 18 Feb 2004
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03-29-2007 19:34
From: Shirley Marquez
Let's see... you're buying a service that requires hours of a skilled graphics professional's time.


Exactly.

Keep in mind that the buyer has the option to sell derivative works. Read my TOS. One could easily make a profit off of combining my texture(s) with others and selling a full body skin.

This service is really for two types of customers:

1. An individual looking to have thier own RL head reproduced at the highest quality my skills and SL's texturing restrictions will allow for personal use inside SL.

2. An individual or business that is interested in enhancing thier own product by combining my texture(s) with it.

I originally calculated my rates matching those I use in RL jobs for similar work and came out at US$750. I chose US$395 as an introductory price for this new service to test it's feasability inside SL. If it becomes popular, and not just a side business, then I will be increasing the cost to balance the demand. It will have to compete with my RL work, which for obvious reasons (I make better $ for my hours) takes priority. Even if I was producing 2 jobs per month with this service, my skinning business is still more lucrative (for the hours I put in on it) than this service would be at the $750 cost.

From: Kepster Cure
I just checked out your site and you seem very professional but their are others offering the same for WAYYYYYY cheaper, sorry dude:(
If you're talking about Chip Midnight, then by all means, people should go get the work done from him. He's as skilled and as talented as they come. I'm still not going to lower my price.:cool:
LillyBeth Filth
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Join date: 23 Apr 2004
Posts: 489
03-30-2007 01:02
From: Namssor Daguerre
Exactly.

Keep in mind that the buyer has the option to sell derivative works. Read my TOS. One could easily make a profit off of combining my texture(s) with others and selling a full body skin.

This service is really for two types of customers:

1. An individual looking to have thier own RL head reproduced at the highest quality my skills and SL's texturing restrictions will allow for personal use inside SL.

2. An individual or business that is interested in enhancing thier own product by combining my texture(s) with it.

I originally calculated my rates matching those I use in RL jobs for similar work and came out at US$750. I chose US$395 as an introductory price for this new service to test it's feasability inside SL. If it becomes popular, and not just a side business, then I will be increasing the cost to balance the demand. It will have to compete with my RL work, which for obvious reasons (I make better $ for my hours) takes priority. Even if I was producing 2 jobs per month with this service, my skinning business is still more lucrative (for the hours I put in on it) than this service would be at the $750 cost.

If you're talking about Chip Midnight, then by all means, people should go get the work done from him. He's as skilled and as talented as they come. I'm still not going to lower my price.:cool:



Nam

I have sent you a Notecard in world.
May be of interest to you. May not :)

Cheers!

LB
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Namssor Daguerre
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Join date: 18 Feb 2004
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03-30-2007 12:22
LillyBeth, I got your note and PM'd you. If you don't get it, email me.
Chip Midnight
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Join date: 1 May 2003
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04-05-2007 19:29
From: Namssor Daguerre
If you're talking about Chip Midnight, then by all means, people should go get the work done from him. He's as skilled and as talented as they come. I'm still not going to lower my price.:cool:


Hehe, fear not Namssor. I'm not nearly "way cheaper." The way you let people use the work is considerably more permissive than what I allow (right to use as a skin only, no raw textures, no resale) and it most definitely justifies the price difference between us. I also add rush fees. (for the curious - $250 to $400 for very quick turnaround). I'm sure if there isn't already people doing stuff much cheaper than both of there will be soon.

For some of us who do professional graphics work outside of SL it's simply not worth the effort if we can't get something close to a real world rate for the work. Greed has nothing to do with it. Mortgage payments do. ;)
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Namssor Daguerre
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04-06-2007 06:47
From: Chip Midnight
For some of us who do professional graphics work outside of SL it's simply not worth the effort if we can't get something close to a real world rate for the work. Greed has nothing to do with it. Mortgage payments do. ;)

How to have fun with people that don't know what SL is:

Curious person in RL: What do you do for a living?

Namssor: I skin heads.


CP in RL: What!?

Namssor: I skin heads, and bodies too :).

CP in RL: ...And you get paid for this!?

Namssor: In a manner of speaking, yes.

CP in RL: This pays your bills?

Namssor: Yes.

CP in RL: Let me guess, you're a taxidermist?

Namssor: No.

CP in RL: - starts backing away - picks up cell phone and dials 911.
Chocolata Oxberger
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Join date: 10 Apr 2006
Posts: 51
04-06-2007 09:08
Klaatu,

I am curious if these people you say are cheaper are in fact offering you the skin, shape and poses you mentioned. You are asking for a totally custom job that would require tons of work and skill. Not just that but more than 1 package.

When considering asking prices, think of this. Most graphic designers will not work for less than minimum wage and imo the price that Namssor has for that type of work is still very cheap. Ask her how many hours it takes to do one skin that way and then break that price down by the hour. Not to mention that she is allowing you resell rights so you can always make your $ back.

Good luck with this, sounds like a lucrative business if you can find the right people to help out.
Spider Mycron
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Join date: 25 Oct 2006
Posts: 133
04-06-2007 10:33
Hello ,
i'm artist doing paints in RL and SL , have my own gallery in world, im me to tp you to checkout my gallery. and i do photography in RL and SL also to surve SL avatars.

Let me know how could it work for us

P.S: you may checkout my website www.lifeheartbeat.com

Best Regards
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Chip Midnight
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04-06-2007 17:11
From: Namssor Daguerre
How to have fun with people that don't know what SL is:

Curious person in RL: What do you do for a living?

Namssor: I skin heads.


CP in RL: What!?

Namssor: I skin heads, and bodies too :).

CP in RL: ...And you get paid for this!?

Namssor: In a manner of speaking, yes.

CP in RL: This pays your bills?

Namssor: Yes.

CP in RL: Let me guess, you're a taxidermist?

Namssor: No.

CP in RL: - starts backing away - picks up cell phone and dials 911.


*laughs* I like to tell people that I work in the skin trade, but only as a sideline.
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Captain Borgnine
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Photorealistic Avs
04-09-2007 08:51
This discussion brought up a number of questions for me. What would people think of a one button (read automatic) tool that converts a photograph (like a passport picture) into a correctly mapped avatar head?

You would have all the rights to the texturemap and can hand edit at will, but the bulk of the hard (time consuming) work would al be done for you. What would this toold be worth?

Would you prefer to see this tool offered as an in-world service or as a stand alone, utility?
Colette Meiji
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04-09-2007 17:14
From: Captain Borgnine
This discussion brought up a number of questions for me. What would people think of a one button (read automatic) tool that converts a photograph (like a passport picture) into a correctly mapped avatar head?

You would have all the rights to the texturemap and can hand edit at will, but the bulk of the hard (time consuming) work would al be done for you. What would this toold be worth?

Would you prefer to see this tool offered as an in-world service or as a stand alone, utility?


Im sure it would be popular amoung many people. It doesnt seem like it would be of the same quality as an artist customizing it to the mish though. (plus they use more, specific pictures of course)

Still good luck with your idea. Im sure there is a market. The sticker shock alone of hiring a n artist like Chip or Nam would ensure that.
Zaz Torok
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Join date: 30 Mar 2007
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04-17-2007 13:24
Hello everybody!

I'm interested in the same thing. Prices looks rather high, so I'd like to explore this field.

Hello Klaatu! Have you got what you looked for? Does your alter ego looks like a twin?)

Hello Namssor and Spider! Could you please show me some more examples of your artwork?

Hello Kepster! Do you know where Chip's pdf can be found? Don't want to bother him, guess I'm not the first..)
Shroom Rich
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Join date: 19 Apr 2006
Posts: 12
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04-18-2007 12:03
well chryogenic's is a real store in SL . some of the best skins actually.. they do photogenic skins... their a bit costly i think , but they do them, and do them well o,o
Namssor Daguerre
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04-18-2007 18:44
From: Zaz Torok
Hello Namssor... Could you please show me some more examples of your artwork?

Zaz Torok
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04-22-2007 05:34
From: Shroom Rich
well chryogenic's is a real store in SL . some of the best skins actually.. they do photogenic skins... their a bit costly i think , but they do them, and do them well o,o


I have tried to find them in-world and in Google, but hadn't succeeded... Could you give me a link please?