Wanted: Free Textures, Creators, look at this...

This chat i caught in a group sharing textures, i am all for freely available textures but creators with their own agreement are hereby warned...

[11:14] User 1: Im looking for TRU PIRATE SHIP Textures... does anyone have this pack?
[11:14] Taz Uriza: arent those textures not allowed to be shared?
[11:14] User 1: Ohhhh
[11:15] User 1: I herd that they are not to be sold
[11:15] User 2: actually no textures should be but are
[11:15] User 1: Yeah really
[11:15] User 2: thuse we are in this group
[11:15] Taz Uriza: they should not be transfered to any and all others, buy them, thats fair to the creators
[11:15] User 2: thus*
[11:15] User 3: not true...there are many free textures that can be traded with no copyright infringement
[11:16] Taz Uriza: VeNoM asks for TRU, Textures-R-Us pack.
[11:16] User 2: true but tell me....no one has never given out a texture other han free ones
[11:16] Taz Uriza: which are not to be handed out
[11:16] User 3: but makers can choose to put copyright on them...and legally, those should not be given away
[11:16] User 1: If the texture has full permissions.. then the creator of the texture set them that way
[11:16] User 4: here you can find 19 free textures but also 1000 commercial ones at 5 L
[11:16] User 4: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Mobil%20Danmark%20Iholm/225/158/26
[11:16] User 2: Venom....i guess its up to the owner
[11:16] User 1: and distribute it
[11:16] User 1: TOS states that once you set your permissions to full
[11:17] User 1: its legal and fair for anyone to use and or share
[11:17] User 2: once u buy it...its yours, u are owner
[11:17] User 3: that's not true of a copyrighted item.
[11:17] User 3: You actually buy a license to use the item, just like software
[11:18] User 3: the disk is technically not what you buy...
[11:18] User 2: hmmm, i buy many copyright items in RL...i give them away/sell them
[11:18] Taz Uriza: im not gonna get into this further, TRU textures are protected by creator / buyer agreement, share them, and i will put your name at their mailbox
[11:18] User 3: the license is
[11:18] User 1: Copy right cant protect the item or object if the permissions are set to FULL
[11:18] User 5: if you dont want your texture to be given out, make it no transfer. that's why they have that option
[11:18] User 1: it states this in the TOS
[11:18] User 2: lol taz...u have to find out who does it to fadd them
[11:18] User 3: if the CREATOR set the permissions to Full, that is true
[11:18] User 2: add*
[11:18] Taz Uriza: thats quite simple..
[11:19] Taz Uriza: you think we dont have alts in here..
[11:19] Taz Uriza: anyway, i am all for free license textures, but dont share them others...
[11:19] User 2: lol sure....d what u have to do hun..if it means that much to u, getter done
[11:19] User 2: taz...coodos to u kiddo
[11:20] User 5: Like I said, if you don't want your texture shared, make it so next owner cannot transfer it. That's what the option's for.
[11:20] User 1: I agree
[11:20] User 2: i believe not all are fortunate as some to have the money for them and texture creators make WAY to much money off them....honest ones would keep the prises down so all could afford them
[11:20] User 5: I'm a nice person and if someone asks me for a texture and I am ABLE to share, I will
[11:20] User 2: prices
[11:21] User 1: Same here If I can share a texture
[11:21] User 1: I do it
[11:21] User 2: to man money hungry texture ceators on here, its not needed
[11:21] Taz Uriza: Sensual, i could be your mum, so dont call me a kiddo... and 2. if you hand out those textures, you are stealing from the creators, which is same as walking into a store and asking for the cash...
[11:21] User 5: So if you don't want it shared, either A. Make it so it can't be shared, or B. get over it.
[11:21] User 1: No its not
[11:22] User 1: Read the TOS
[11:22] User 1: come on now
[11:22] User 2: lol taz...1, im blessed that im not 2. so is downloading music off the net...ever do it?
[11:22] User 5: If they REALLY didn't want it shared, don't you think they would NOT take the time to go into the properties of EACH and every texture they upload and make it so you CAN'T tansfer it? Come on use common sence
[11:22] User 5: sense
[11:22] Taz Uriza: you mean the 10 second bits i get in SL? yes i do that too, other than that, i get my music when i know what i want, and download it when paid for...
[11:22] User 6: you're wrong VeNoM. the permissions in sl make the texture usable by builders when they're set to full , but the copyright of the texture creator exists as soon as he creates the texture , and the license agreement of the seller says explicitely if you have or not the right to resell or distribute them , or not
[11:23] User 1: No
[11:23] User 1: lol They set the LEGAL PERMISSIONS
[11:23] User 1: LOL!!
[11:23] User 1: Read the TOS
[11:23] User 6: the tos cannot allow someone to ignore the rl law
[11:24] Taz Uriza: TOS is not the bible VeNoM, they are a set of rules enforced by LL, you agree to the agreement of the creator the second you pay for the textures, catch up on your legal acts.
[11:24] Taz Uriza: anyway, do your thing and get them from people
[11:24] User 1: And when you agree to them you are agreeing to the LL TOS which is a legal doc
[11:24] User 2: lol ah well guys, i'll ocntinue to do as i want with my textures...i put the thousands of dollars out on them and im not going to feel guilty...i mentor many and help just as many...keep your tight asses puckerd with your "good"..your help to others will be returned
[11:25] User 5: Taz if you don't like it then leave the group. I have been in this goup for FOREVER and apparently it's not been closed down yet. So get over it and leave the goup if you're here to do nothing but tick people off
[11:25] User 1: Your agreeing with the rules and laws of this world
[11:25] Taz Uriza: ill be laughing in each of your faces if the people just leave the texture bizz and you guys be biting your nails to make your own...
[11:25] User 1: Dont think thats gonna happen
[11:25] User 5: I am a texture creato. I am here to help people out. So yeah, I can make my own thank you very much.
[11:25] User 5: creato*
[11:26] User 1: look at gesture creators
[11:26] User 5: damnit, creator
[11:26] Taz Uriza: haha.. this is the discussion i wanted to see though, i thank you all for the replies, mind you since there is no legal agreement to this chat, i will post it on the forum.
[11:26] Taz Uriza: all i want.
[11:26] User 7: plps.. i think all the textures are whiout permissions
[11:26] Taz Uriza: and copy it

#1 Posting names and chat logs is a TOS violation here.
#2 This is the wrong place to post something like this (try 3rd party forums).
#3 The idiots in that chat log don't care about copyrights and never will.
#4 You should have contacted TRU and others directly. They do follow up if they have probable cause.

1 Edited names & 2 Chat logs a TOS violation?
2 I know, yet this is where creators are.
3 Also know, but i think this has to be adressed.
4 I will...

From the community standards:

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Residents are entitled to a reasonable level of privacy with regard to their Second Lives. Sharing personal information about a fellow Resident --including gender, religion, age, marital status, race, sexual preference, and real-world location beyond what is provided by the Resident in the First Life page of their Resident profile is a violation of that Resident's privacy. Remotely monitoring conversations, posting conversation logs, or sharing conversation logs without consent are all prohibited in Second Life and on the Second Life Forums.

Posting names may be considered a TOS violation.

The creators may always file a DMCA complaint or simply take LL to court if they feel violated...