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Loki Pico

Registered User

Join date: 20 Jun 2003

Posts: 1,938

03-22-2005 01:37

It would be nice if the Lindens allowed people free trees that would not count against the plot prim allotment. This might help beautify SL. Trees are always the first to go on small plots in favor of prims for chairs and whatnot. Many people would like to have trees but feel they cant afford the prims, this is especially true on smaller plots.

A Linden tree credit of five trees per 512m plot would go a long way to helping reforest SL. As far as the simulator usage, unless there is a work around, Lindens would need to maintain about 1920m per sim to support the five tree per 512m plot quota. Built in land tools could monitor the free tree count.

Tang Lightcloud

Sweet & Juicy

Join date: 22 May 2004

Posts: 377

BEST Idea Ive Heard Yet

03-22-2005 07:14

This is absolutely the best idea I have heard yet and I will bump this thread with you to keep it near the top. Lots of folk on these forums are harping about keeping SL beautiful and not destroying the land by wiping it bare. Lets all chant to the Lindens-

Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees!

(Kind of reminds me of Bluckbuster dropping their rental fees - great move!)

Come on Lindens- - - - - Pretty please. . . . .. .

Artillo Fredericks

Friendly Orange Demon

Join date: 1 Jun 2004

Posts: 1,327

03-22-2005 07:16

YEA good idea

ESPECIALLY if they are moving to SpeedTreeRT!

http://www.idvinc.com/html/speedtreert.htm

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Kris Ritter

paradoxical embolism

Join date: 31 Oct 2003

Posts: 6,627

03-22-2005 07:28

*stamp*

Shiryu agrees too, but instead of endorsing your suggestion here, he took it straight to the Lindens... /invalid_link.html

Too good to come and rubberstamp an idea in Features any more are ya? Feted! That's what it is! Expects special treatment. Pfffft.

Khamon Fate

fategardens.net

Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

03-22-2005 08:12

a green grid is a happy grid

/stamp

Roberta Dalek

Probably trouble

Join date: 21 Oct 2004

Posts: 1,174

03-22-2005 08:13

Yes more trees please.

Paolo Portocarrero

Puritanical Hedonist

Join date: 28 Apr 2004

Posts: 2,393

03-22-2005 08:27

From: Tang Lightcloud

This is absolutely the best idea I have heard yet and I will bump this thread with you to keep it near the top. Lots of folk on these forums are harping about keeping SL beautiful and not destroying the land by wiping it bare. Lets all chant to the Lindens-

Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees!

(Kind of reminds me of Bluckbuster dropping their rental fees - great move!)

Come on Lindens- - - - - Pretty please. . . . .. .

Without question! Yes, bring on the trees -- save the SL forest.

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Waves Lightcloud

SexBall Safety Designer

Join date: 22 May 2004

Posts: 193

03-22-2005 09:13

From: Tang Lightcloud

This is absolutely the best idea I have heard yet and I will bump this thread with you to keep it near the top. Lots of folk on these forums are harping about keeping SL beautiful and not destroying the land by wiping it bare. Lets all chant to the Lindens-

Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees!

(Kind of reminds me of Bluckbuster dropping their rental fees - great move!)

Come on Lindens- - - - - Pretty please. . . . .. .

Yes Babes, more trees
more Trees= forests
more Trees= forest,loggers
more Trees= forest,loggers,Tree stumps

Man & woman walking in the woods come apon a Tree stump

anyone else in SL= walks around said stump and continues on path

Waves&Tang= Drop the posting event idea, put everyone on mute, drop all AV clothing and have 2 hours of great cyber cartoon sex on said stump !!

and dont stretch the truth babes you know i only have ver. 7.5 boyfriend software !!

`never do card tricks for your poker buddies

Tang Lightcloud

Sweet & Juicy

Join date: 22 May 2004

Posts: 377

Dang it Waves

03-22-2005 09:25

Im actually trying to get on a worthy cause here, and you stilll manage to turn it into sex. You kill me. LOLOLOLOLK

Ghoti Nyak

καλλιστι

Join date: 7 Aug 2004

Posts: 2,078

03-22-2005 09:30

Love me some trees.

/sign

-Ghoti

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Travis Lambert

White dog, red collar

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,819

03-22-2005 11:09

I think this is a great idea!

What's more... considering there are typically quite a few "unused prims" in most mainland sims due to Linden Land - accomodating an allotment of trees per plot shouldn't be too big a problem.

Maybe have a seperate allotment per parcel for "greenery" that doesn't count against your primary prim allotment?

Hope LL runs with this one!

Travis

Tang Lightcloud

Sweet & Juicy

Join date: 22 May 2004

Posts: 377

Bump

03-22-2005 12:09

Please Lindens please give us free prim trees. "Gets down on knees and bats eyelahes with puppy dog look".

blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

03-22-2005 13:01

Free trees perhaps, but not free grass.

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Kathmandu Gilman

Fearful Symmetry Baby!

Join date: 21 May 2004

Posts: 1,418

03-22-2005 21:51

With the advent of free trees, you will run into the specter of... griefer trees!!! Other than that I below a hearty "Hear Hear!" and give this my full endorsement.

Traxx Hathor

Architect

Join date: 11 Oct 2004

Posts: 422

03-23-2005 11:51

Yes to your idea, Loki. This proposal should be kept alive until implemented.

Most people return the linden plants, and don't replace them. The reason seems to be a desire to use all prims for house/decor.

Right now there's one way to get a slight advantage in the struggle between prim limits and the desire for foliage. Those of us who prefer wilderness can get one of the free-to-copy trees called HUGE PINE TREE from the SL Parks and Rec site near Hiro's shop in Varney. Don't remember the name of that park, but if you hover over Hiro's roof you'll see huge pine trees -- many of them! A huge pine tree blocks a lot of wall. Highly recommended. : )

Roseann Flora

/wrist

Join date: 7 Feb 2004

Posts: 1,058

03-23-2005 11:56

I think this is a real good idea to!!

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Nekokami Dragonfly

猫神

Join date: 29 Aug 2004

Posts: 638

03-23-2005 20:53

Robin didn't seem to take to this idea in the forums (or maybe it was another Linden), but I'd like to see it. I suspect the "rights of landowners" argument will be invoked against this one, though. Sadly.

(Anyone else familiar with the ancient Roman concept of "vista"?)

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Linden Tree Credit
Loki Pico Registered User Join date: 20 Jun 2003 Posts: 1,938	03-22-2005 01:37 It would be nice if the Lindens allowed people free trees that would not count against the plot prim allotment. This might help beautify SL. Trees are always the first to go on small plots in favor of prims for chairs and whatnot. Many people would like to have trees but feel they cant afford the prims, this is especially true on smaller plots. A Linden tree credit of five trees per 512m plot would go a long way to helping reforest SL. As far as the simulator usage, unless there is a work around, Lindens would need to maintain about 1920m per sim to support the five tree per 512m plot quota. Built in land tools could monitor the free tree count.
Tang Lightcloud Sweet & Juicy Join date: 22 May 2004 Posts: 377	BEST Idea Ive Heard Yet 03-22-2005 07:14 This is absolutely the best idea I have heard yet and I will bump this thread with you to keep it near the top. Lots of folk on these forums are harping about keeping SL beautiful and not destroying the land by wiping it bare. Lets all chant to the Lindens- Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees! (Kind of reminds me of Bluckbuster dropping their rental fees - great move!) Come on Lindens- - - - - Pretty please. . . . .. .
Artillo Fredericks Friendly Orange Demon Join date: 1 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,327	03-22-2005 07:16 YEA good idea ESPECIALLY if they are moving to SpeedTreeRT! http://www.idvinc.com/html/speedtreert.htm _____________________ "I, for one, am thouroughly entertained by the mass freakout." - Nephilaine Protagonist --== www.artillodesign.com ==--
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	03-22-2005 07:28 stamp Shiryu agrees too, but instead of endorsing your suggestion here, he took it straight to the Lindens... /invalid_link.html Too good to come and rubberstamp an idea in Features any more are ya? Feted! That's what it is! Expects special treatment. Pfffft.
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	03-22-2005 08:12 a green grid is a happy grid /stamp
Roberta Dalek Probably trouble Join date: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 1,174	03-22-2005 08:13 Yes more trees please.
Paolo Portocarrero Puritanical Hedonist Join date: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 2,393	03-22-2005 08:27 From: Tang Lightcloud This is absolutely the best idea I have heard yet and I will bump this thread with you to keep it near the top. Lots of folk on these forums are harping about keeping SL beautiful and not destroying the land by wiping it bare. Lets all chant to the Lindens- Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees! (Kind of reminds me of Bluckbuster dropping their rental fees - great move!) Come on Lindens- - - - - Pretty please. . . . .. . Without question! Yes, bring on the trees -- save the SL forest. _____________________ Facades by Paolo - Photo-Realistic Skins for Doods > Flagship store, Santo Paolo's Lofts & Boutiques > SLBoutique
Waves Lightcloud SexBall Safety Designer Join date: 22 May 2004 Posts: 193	03-22-2005 09:13 From: Tang Lightcloud This is absolutely the best idea I have heard yet and I will bump this thread with you to keep it near the top. Lots of folk on these forums are harping about keeping SL beautiful and not destroying the land by wiping it bare. Lets all chant to the Lindens- Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees! Free Prim Trees! (Kind of reminds me of Bluckbuster dropping their rental fees - great move!) Come on Lindens- - - - - Pretty please. . . . .. . Yes Babes, more trees more Trees= forests more Trees= forest,loggers more Trees= forest,loggers,Tree stumps Man & woman walking in the woods come apon a Tree stump anyone else in SL= walks around said stump and continues on path Waves&Tang= Drop the posting event idea, put everyone on mute, drop all AV clothing and have 2 hours of great cyber cartoon sex on said stump !! and dont stretch the truth babes you know i only have ver. 7.5 boyfriend software !! `never do card tricks for your poker buddies
Tang Lightcloud Sweet & Juicy Join date: 22 May 2004 Posts: 377	Dang it Waves 03-22-2005 09:25 Im actually trying to get on a worthy cause here, and you stilll manage to turn it into sex. You kill me. LOLOLOLOLK
Ghoti Nyak καλλιστι Join date: 7 Aug 2004 Posts: 2,078	03-22-2005 09:30 Love me some trees. /sign -Ghoti _____________________ "Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
Travis Lambert White dog, red collar Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,819	03-22-2005 11:09 I think this is a great idea! What's more... considering there are typically quite a few "unused prims" in most mainland sims due to Linden Land - accomodating an allotment of trees per plot shouldn't be too big a problem. Maybe have a seperate allotment per parcel for "greenery" that doesn't count against your primary prim allotment? Hope LL runs with this one! Travis
Tang Lightcloud Sweet & Juicy Join date: 22 May 2004 Posts: 377	Bump 03-22-2005 12:09 Please Lindens please give us free prim trees. "Gets down on knees and bats eyelahes with puppy dog look".
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	03-22-2005 13:01 Free trees perhaps, but not free grass. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Kathmandu Gilman Fearful Symmetry Baby! Join date: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1,418	03-22-2005 21:51 With the advent of free trees, you will run into the specter of... griefer trees!!! Other than that I below a hearty "Hear Hear!" and give this my full endorsement.
Traxx Hathor Architect Join date: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 422	03-23-2005 11:51 Yes to your idea, Loki. This proposal should be kept alive until implemented. Most people return the linden plants, and don't replace them. The reason seems to be a desire to use all prims for house/decor. Right now there's one way to get a slight advantage in the struggle between prim limits and the desire for foliage. Those of us who prefer wilderness can get one of the free-to-copy trees called HUGE PINE TREE from the SL Parks and Rec site near Hiro's shop in Varney. Don't remember the name of that park, but if you hover over Hiro's roof you'll see huge pine trees -- many of them! A huge pine tree blocks a lot of wall. Highly recommended. : )
Roseann Flora /wrist Join date: 7 Feb 2004 Posts: 1,058	03-23-2005 11:56 I think this is a real good idea to!! _____________________
Nekokami Dragonfly 猫神 Join date: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 638	03-23-2005 20:53 Robin didn't seem to take to this idea in the forums (or maybe it was another Linden), but I'd like to see it. I suspect the "rights of landowners" argument will be invoked against this one, though. Sadly. (Anyone else familiar with the ancient Roman concept of "vista"?) neko _____________________ Help build InnerLife, a biofeedback adventure in Second Life Please Vote: Prop: 203 - Support local devices beyond mouse and keyboard Prop: 201 - Scriptable Avatar Prims/NPCs/Mannequins/Animals Prop: 199 - Capes, Cloaks, Coats, Veils, Belts, etc.

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