Second Life Forums Archive - Large Water Sims

Cutter Rubio

Hopeless Romantic

Join date: 7 Feb 2004

Posts: 264

06-21-2004 10:06

Hi Lindens -

With the proliferation of watercraft - sailboats, motor yachts, submarines, jetskis and the like - please consider filling the holes in the grid with empty water sims until such time as land is integrated into them. This would make water-borne travel around the world easy and quite spectacular. Maybe even drop a few underwater wrecks and such to look for

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Hank Ramos

Lifetime Scripter

Join date: 15 Nov 2003

Posts: 2,328

06-21-2004 10:07

I second this feature suggestion! It would also help vehicles with autonavigation systems not to have to figure out routes around non-existent sim voids.

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Cybin Monde

Resident Moderator (?)

Join date: 27 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,468

good concept..

06-21-2004 12:21

i know this idea has been mentioned before and i have an idea to make it more feasible for LL.

perhaps water sims could include 1/2 sim of land.. or less. the water could be protected land. then, like Nova Albion, the prim allotment could be doubled.. or more.

people would pay higher prices for the land and there would be huge tracts of waterways for watercraft.

a win-win situation.

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Zak Escher

Builder and Scripter

Join date: 3 Aug 2003

Posts: 181

06-21-2004 12:52

I support this product/service/request.

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Jack Digeridoo

machinimaniac

Join date: 29 Jul 2003

Posts: 1,170

06-21-2004 13:15

I think thats a great idea that would make the world seem MUCH larger. And we should wrap around to the other side of the map when we get to the edge instead of hitting an invisible wall

Darwin Appleby

I Was Beaten With Satan

Join date: 14 Mar 2003

Posts: 2,779

06-21-2004 14:14

This has been suggested many, many, many times. WE REALLY WANT IT! C'mon, regular sized sim that doesn't support many prims at all, maybe just a couple hundred even. You can run multiple sims on the same server. Then you can just put ocean sims all around SL! that would be very, very good indeed.

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Oz Spade

ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand

Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,708

06-21-2004 20:31

I heavily endorse this idea/feature!

Death to Bounding Sim Boxes!

Vive Le Water Sims!!
*shrugs*

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Strife Onizuka

Moonchild

Join date: 3 Mar 2004

Posts: 5,887

06-22-2004 01:10

I think water is a good idea. LL could replace the servers running the old sims and re-use them for the water sims. Would bring up the property value in old sims, and would make navigation easier. Also if you put maybe two islands in each sim and quadrupaled the prim allowance you would have the most valuable land in SL running on an old server.

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Darko Cellardoor

Cannabinoid Addict

Join date: 10 Nov 2003

Posts: 1,307

06-22-2004 10:20

right on cutter. 100% here

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Larissa Lomax

Registered User

Join date: 20 Mar 2004

Posts: 187

06-22-2004 12:11

sounds great! I, also, endorse the idea!

Larissa

a lost user

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Posts: ?

06-22-2004 13:02

I know that LL probably won't do it because they won't make any extra money directly from this idea but we really do need some open water with no land mass at all. Allocate 0 prims and make it no edit, no build land. This would ba awsome for boating as there really isnt a great place for it now.

There are several 2-3 water sim sights on the map that are surrounded by land. these would be ideal as they are already in the middle of the world.

Just something for LL to think about, I said there would be no money generated 'directly' from this but indirectly there would be due to the added ease of travel and the added fun of the open water. Some newbies may choose to stay because of these features in addition to the retention of existing customers. Please think about this. We really want it and it is needed!

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Francis Chung

This sentence no verb.

Join date: 22 Sep 2003

Posts: 918

06-22-2004 13:33

I support this product and/or service.

But, I'd prefer to have the land set to build with a 60 minute auto-return or something.

This will make it easier to rez vehicles, and ramps/obstacles for fun things like jetskiing

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a lost user

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06-22-2004 15:42

From: someone

Originally posted by Francis Chung
I support this product and/or service.

But, I'd prefer to have the land set to build with a 60 minute auto-return or something.

This will make it easier to rez vehicles, and ramps/obstacles for fun things like jetskiing

That kinda defeats the purpose of "open water"... lol... rezing your vehicle is fine of course but you could always do that on adjacent sims... there shouldnt be any building at all... thats just my opinion though and im not saying yours isnt valid too... lol

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Jon Morgan

Senior Member

Join date: 28 May 2004

Posts: 174

06-22-2004 19:45

I think the problem with this is that basically each sim is a separate hardware unit (a server). It costs too much money even for small servers to support water sims, particularly when there is no return for Linden.

Eggy Lippmann

Wiktator

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 7,939

06-23-2004 04:23

We could have a sim with building enabled but residents would have to build either in the sky or underwater. What do you think?
It wouldnt be such a waste of resources if something like this could be pulled off.

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Zak Escher

Builder and Scripter

Join date: 3 Aug 2003

Posts: 181

06-23-2004 06:54

It seems that residents build on the water in sims anyway. I think LL could still create water sims and sell land. I personally would buy a water lot for a boat dock or underwater house.

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Kurt Zidane

Just Human

Join date: 1 Apr 2004

Posts: 636

06-23-2004 23:13

It would be great if sl supplied a few more sims of community land. Including an empty lake, and a few touches here or there to preserve the cosmetic butte of the land. Could have a sunken ship, a few coral reefs, a giant clam, or even a gain sea turtle, that double as an island.

Personall I have an intrest to purchas some land on a coral reaf.

Ursa Falcone

Rocket Scientist

Join date: 26 Mar 2004

Posts: 1,989

06-24-2004 05:04

yes to this - "yes! yes! yes!" (Meg Ryan style)

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Jeska Linden: I'm closing this thread because it's obviously overstepped the boundaries of useful conversation, even for the off-topic forum.

Huns Valen

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Join date: 3 May 2003

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06-24-2004 09:47

GIVE US A REAL OCEAN. GET RID OF THE TRANSPARENT WALLS AROUND THE WORLD.

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Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

06-24-2004 11:30

Hah! Good one Huns I was about to suggest calling it an ocean!

Make it deep too!

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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

Marcos Fonzarelli

You are not Marcos

Join date: 26 Feb 2004

Posts: 748

06-25-2004 16:30

I would LOVE to see the holes in the map filled with oceans. Big, wide, beautiful oceans.

Deep oceans would also be very nice because there could be more places to drive our submarines.

Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

06-25-2004 20:25

Exactly what I'm thinking.

Plus, it'll shut up all these people who are begging. lol

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BTW

WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

Garth FairChang

~ Mr FairChang ~

Join date: 24 Jun 2003

Posts: 275

Ocean sims

06-25-2004 21:53

This has been suggested before but here goes:

We have been told that you can run more than one sim on a server so... put 4 water sims on a server. set them for less players per sim and maybe ony 500 prims. set them to auto delete after 60 mins.

This would mean we sail through them, res boats but not hold big events, clutter them up with prims etc...

It would be great to have even just the holes between the sims plugged in this fashion.

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Garoad Kuroda

Prophet of Muppetry

Join date: 5 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,989

06-25-2004 22:16

Sounds good to me. Maybe use two servers and make it 8 sims..

And heck, I don't even have a boat. lol

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BTW

WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

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Cutter Rubio Hopeless Romantic Join date: 7 Feb 2004 Posts: 264	06-21-2004 10:06 Hi Lindens - With the proliferation of watercraft - sailboats, motor yachts, submarines, jetskis and the like - please consider filling the holes in the grid with empty water sims until such time as land is integrated into them. This would make water-borne travel around the world easy and quite spectacular. Maybe even drop a few underwater wrecks and such to look for _____________________ The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
Hank Ramos Lifetime Scripter Join date: 15 Nov 2003 Posts: 2,328	06-21-2004 10:07 I second this feature suggestion! It would also help vehicles with autonavigation systems not to have to figure out routes around non-existent sim voids. _____________________
Cybin Monde Resident Moderator (?) Join date: 27 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,468	good concept.. 06-21-2004 12:21 i know this idea has been mentioned before and i have an idea to make it more feasible for LL. perhaps water sims could include 1/2 sim of land.. or less. the water could be protected land. then, like Nova Albion, the prim allotment could be doubled.. or more. people would pay higher prices for the land and there would be huge tracts of waterways for watercraft. a win-win situation. _____________________ "We, as developers, are doing the easy part – building the scaffolding for a new world. You, as the engines of creation, must breathe life into it." - Philip Linden "There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be." - Willy Wonka (circa 1971) SecondSpace (http://groups.myspace.com/secondspace) : MySpace group for SLers.
Zak Escher Builder and Scripter Join date: 3 Aug 2003 Posts: 181	06-21-2004 12:52 I support this product/service/request. _____________________ Zak Escher Unity Shapes http://slurl.com/secondlife/Hatteras%20Island/125/46/31 http://unityshapes.blogspot.com/ See what I have for sale at SLExchange
Jack Digeridoo machinimaniac Join date: 29 Jul 2003 Posts: 1,170	06-21-2004 13:15 I think thats a great idea that would make the world seem MUCH larger. And we should wrap around to the other side of the map when we get to the edge instead of hitting an invisible wall
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	06-21-2004 14:14 This has been suggested many, many, many times. WE REALLY WANT IT! C'mon, regular sized sim that doesn't support many prims at all, maybe just a couple hundred even. You can run multiple sims on the same server. Then you can just put ocean sims all around SL! that would be very, very good indeed. _____________________ Touche.
Oz Spade ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,708	06-21-2004 20:31 I heavily endorse this idea/feature! Death to Bounding Sim Boxes! Vive Le Water Sims!! shrugs _____________________ "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	06-22-2004 01:10 I think water is a good idea. LL could replace the servers running the old sims and re-use them for the water sims. Would bring up the property value in old sims, and would make navigation easier. Also if you put maybe two islands in each sim and quadrupaled the prim allowance you would have the most valuable land in SL running on an old server. _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
Darko Cellardoor Cannabinoid Addict Join date: 10 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,307	06-22-2004 10:20 right on cutter. 100% here _____________________
Larissa Lomax Registered User Join date: 20 Mar 2004 Posts: 187	06-22-2004 12:11 sounds great! I, also, endorse the idea! Larissa
a lost user Join date: ? Posts: ?	06-22-2004 13:02 I know that LL probably won't do it because they won't make any extra money directly from this idea but we really do need some open water with no land mass at all. Allocate 0 prims and make it no edit, no build land. This would ba awsome for boating as there really isnt a great place for it now. There are several 2-3 water sim sights on the map that are surrounded by land. these would be ideal as they are already in the middle of the world. Just something for LL to think about, I said there would be no money generated 'directly' from this but indirectly there would be due to the added ease of travel and the added fun of the open water. Some newbies may choose to stay because of these features in addition to the retention of existing customers. Please think about this. We really want it and it is needed! _____________________
Francis Chung This sentence no verb. Join date: 22 Sep 2003 Posts: 918	06-22-2004 13:33 I support this product and/or service. But, I'd prefer to have the land set to build with a 60 minute auto-return or something. This will make it easier to rez vehicles, and ramps/obstacles for fun things like jetskiing _____________________ -- ~If you lived here, you would be home by now~
a lost user Join date: ? Posts: ?	06-22-2004 15:42 From: someone Originally posted by Francis Chung I support this product and/or service. But, I'd prefer to have the land set to build with a 60 minute auto-return or something. This will make it easier to rez vehicles, and ramps/obstacles for fun things like jetskiing That kinda defeats the purpose of "open water"... lol... rezing your vehicle is fine of course but you could always do that on adjacent sims... there shouldnt be any building at all... thats just my opinion though and im not saying yours isnt valid too... lol _____________________
Jon Morgan Senior Member Join date: 28 May 2004 Posts: 174	06-22-2004 19:45 I think the problem with this is that basically each sim is a separate hardware unit (a server). It costs too much money even for small servers to support water sims, particularly when there is no return for Linden.
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	06-23-2004 04:23 We could have a sim with building enabled but residents would have to build either in the sky or underwater. What do you think? It wouldnt be such a waste of resources if something like this could be pulled off. _____________________ Help us document Second Life history at http://slhistory.org!
Zak Escher Builder and Scripter Join date: 3 Aug 2003 Posts: 181	06-23-2004 06:54 It seems that residents build on the water in sims anyway. I think LL could still create water sims and sell land. I personally would buy a water lot for a boat dock or underwater house. _____________________ Zak Escher Unity Shapes http://slurl.com/secondlife/Hatteras%20Island/125/46/31 http://unityshapes.blogspot.com/ See what I have for sale at SLExchange
Kurt Zidane Just Human Join date: 1 Apr 2004 Posts: 636	06-23-2004 23:13 It would be great if sl supplied a few more sims of community land. Including an empty lake, and a few touches here or there to preserve the cosmetic butte of the land. Could have a sunken ship, a few coral reefs, a giant clam, or even a gain sea turtle, that double as an island. Personall I have an intrest to purchas some land on a coral reaf.
Ursa Falcone Rocket Scientist Join date: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 1,989	06-24-2004 05:04 yes to this - "yes! yes! yes!" (Meg Ryan style) _____________________ From: someone Jeska Linden: I'm closing this thread because it's obviously overstepped the boundaries of useful conversation, even for the off-topic forum.
Huns Valen Don't PM me here. Join date: 3 May 2003 Posts: 2,749	06-24-2004 09:47 GIVE US A REAL OCEAN. GET RID OF THE TRANSPARENT WALLS AROUND THE WORLD. _____________________ [ huns? \|\| words \|\| 1TBS KREW \|\| VHI Aircraft \|\| Whitepaper on Aircraft Physics ] Make yourself and your objects immune to llPushObject().
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	06-24-2004 11:30 Hah! Good one Huns I was about to suggest calling it an ocean! Make it deep too! _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Marcos Fonzarelli You are not Marcos Join date: 26 Feb 2004 Posts: 748	06-25-2004 16:30 I would LOVE to see the holes in the map filled with oceans. Big, wide, beautiful oceans. Deep oceans would also be very nice because there could be more places to drive our submarines.
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	06-25-2004 20:25 Exactly what I'm thinking. Plus, it'll shut up all these people who are begging. lol _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
Garth FairChang ~ Mr FairChang ~ Join date: 24 Jun 2003 Posts: 275	Ocean sims 06-25-2004 21:53 This has been suggested before but here goes: We have been told that you can run more than one sim on a server so... put 4 water sims on a server. set them for less players per sim and maybe ony 500 prims. set them to auto delete after 60 mins. This would mean we sail through them, res boats but not hold big events, clutter them up with prims etc... It would be great to have even just the holes between the sims plugged in this fashion. _____________________ Garth FairChang ~Cheeky Brit~ ' Have a nice day ' http://www.fairchang.com
Garoad Kuroda Prophet of Muppetry Join date: 5 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,989	06-25-2004 22:16 Sounds good to me. Maybe use two servers and make it 8 sims.. And heck, I don't even have a boat. lol _____________________ BTW WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!

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