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Alfa Rubio

Junior Member

Join date: 18 Jan 2004

Posts: 1

01-26-2004 16:41

How about syndicating the Leader Boards, Upcoming Events, New World Notes, etc as with RSS so they could be added to community websites and brought into blog readers?

This would add value for residents, increase profile and aid affiliate programs

Alfalpha Rubio

si Money

The nice demon.

Join date: 21 May 2003

Posts: 477

01-26-2004 16:43

Personally, i'd still rather see the Leader Boards gone entirely.

I gave away L$100,000 just to get myself off of them.

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Catherine Omega: Yes, but lots of stuff isn't listed. "Making UI harder to use than ever" and "removing all the necessary status icons" things.... there's nothing like that in the release notes.

Darwin Appleby

I Was Beaten With Satan

Join date: 14 Mar 2003

Posts: 2,779

01-26-2004 16:59

Yeah, I've done things similar to what' si did, especially after 1.2. Can we opt out of being on the leader boards?

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Oz Spade

ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand

Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,708

01-26-2004 20:34

Whats RSS?

And why wouldn't you want to be on leader boards?

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Catherine Omega

Geometry Ninja

Join date: 10 Jan 2003

Posts: 2,053

01-27-2004 04:55

Heh, why would you not want to be on the leader boards? Hmm, let me think...

When I was at the top of all the leader boards, (except money) I would get IMs from 5-15 different people a day, all looking for help. This would be fine, except they were --without exception-- questions like, "how do I close SL?" and "how do I get points?" In the eyes of many a newbie, I was THE "best" person in SL and therefore the best person to ask for help. After all, I wouldn't be in the top slot otherwise, would I?

As if that weren't irritating enough, there were quite a few residents in SL who were absolutely furious that I was "beating" them. How DARE I cheat them out of their rightful spot as "top resident"!

Thankfully, a couple of them actually had the right idea, which was that the insane leader boards system was the mechanism by which our stipend bonus was calculated, meaning that if I was higher than them on the list, I was getting money that they weren't. And of course I was -- I couldn't have afforded my gigantic mansion without it.

The combination of beancounters and newbies proved to be too annoying, and given that I had "burned out" on newbies, I found I had no desire to spend time teaching newbies how to chat or build, just to get a calling card and a rate. At all. ...so I came up with a new method of making money: hacking!

Nah, I just sold stuff.

The point is, if you're on the leader boards, particularly in the top spot, you will eventually have to deal with the dumbest and most annoying people in SL.

(RSS, by the way, stands for "Rich Site Summary". It's an XML format for "syndicating" news headlines and similar data from one site to another. Most of the big portals and a lot of news sites use it. It's just a standard way of distributing content.)

Kex Godel

Master Slacker

Join date: 14 Nov 2003

Posts: 869

01-27-2004 10:07

Maybe I should start a bank so I can get on the boards and then help people =D

You have to admit though that there's not much in the UI for newbies to go by to know who to ask for help. There's no UI system that lists the current Liasons, Mentors, or Instructors who are online. Newbies need something which is simple point and click to easily find and quickly access people who are willing to help.

At least now I have a good excuse for trying to amass wealth =D

Nergal Fallingbridge

meep.

Join date: 26 Jun 2003

Posts: 677

01-27-2004 12:59

From: someone

Originally posted by Kex Godel
Maybe I should start a bank so I can get on the boards and then help people =D

You have to admit though that there's not much in the UI for newbies to go by to know who to ask for help. There's no UI system that lists the current Liasons, Mentors, or Instructors who are online. Newbies need something which is simple point and click to easily find and quickly access people who are willing to help.

At least now I have a good excuse for trying to amass wealth =D

Heh, banks have been tried before. I don't think any of them are still around -- at least, I haven't heard of one.

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Oz Spade

ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand

Join date: 23 Sep 2003

Posts: 2,708

01-27-2004 17:52

I wouldn't mind seeing the RSS thing...

But being able to opt out of the leader boards... I dunno, why not just NOT have leader boards at all then? If half the people can and do opt out of being on them it becomes kind of pointless to have them.

I think instead of opt out, to resolve the hassling from newbies add a "Get Help" button that will open up an IM to a Liason or Mentor or something.

I like the leader boards, they give a goal when I want one. If people could opt out of being on them it would pretty much ruine the whole concept of it.

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Guzar Fonzarelli

Ultrapantsy

Join date: 8 Jan 2004

Posts: 40

01-27-2004 20:06

From: someone

Originally posted by Catherine Omega
...RSS, by the way, stands for "Rich Site Summary"...

Huh. I always thought it stood for "Really Simple Syndication"... but I guess both those and "RDF Site Summary" are all valid.

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si Money

The nice demon.

Join date: 21 May 2003

Posts: 477

01-27-2004 20:30

From: someone

Originally posted by Oz Spade
I wouldn't mind seeing the RSS thing...

But being able to opt out of the leader boards... I dunno, why not just NOT have leader boards at all then? If half the people can and do opt out of being on them it becomes kind of pointless to have them.

I think instead of opt out, to resolve the hassling from newbies add a "Get Help" button that will open up an IM to a Liason or Mentor or something.

I like the leader boards, they give a goal when I want one. If people could opt out of being on them it would pretty much ruine the whole concept of it.

I never got bugged by newbies, instead I got interrogated any time I did anything, because people decided I was only out to take money from people.

It got progressively worse from there, but suffice it to say I don't care to ever be on the leader boards, as too many people in SL like to randomly make accusations about people.

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Like a soul without a mind
In a body without a heart
I'm missing every part

-- Progress --
Catherine Omega: Yes, but lots of stuff isn't listed. "Making UI harder to use than ever" and "removing all the necessary status icons" things.... there's nothing like that in the release notes.

Eggy Lippmann

Wiktator

Join date: 1 May 2003

Posts: 7,939

01-27-2004 21:34

I think RSS should instead stand for RSS Site Summary or RSS Site Syndication

GNU's Not Unix, WINE Is Not an Emulator... you know the drill

blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

01-02-2005 19:46

We could do RSS feeds for the forums as well. I'm starting to use this and it'd be nice instead of having to visit a 100 different websites..

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Elle Pollack

Takes internets seriously

Join date: 12 Oct 2004

Posts: 796

01-02-2005 20:43

New World Notes already has an RSS feed: http://secondlife.blogs.com/nwn/index.rdf or username hamletlinden if you have a Livejournal and want it syndicated on your friends page.

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Alfa Rubio Junior Member Join date: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 1	01-26-2004 16:41 How about syndicating the Leader Boards, Upcoming Events, New World Notes, etc as with RSS so they could be added to community websites and brought into blog readers? This would add value for residents, increase profile and aid affiliate programs Alfalpha Rubio
si Money The nice demon. Join date: 21 May 2003 Posts: 477	01-26-2004 16:43 Personally, i'd still rather see the Leader Boards gone entirely. I gave away L$100,000 just to get myself off of them. _____________________ Like a soul without a mind In a body without a heart I'm missing every part -- Progress -- Catherine Omega: Yes, but lots of stuff isn't listed. "Making UI harder to use than ever" and "removing all the necessary status icons" things.... there's nothing like that in the release notes.
Darwin Appleby I Was Beaten With Satan Join date: 14 Mar 2003 Posts: 2,779	01-26-2004 16:59 Yeah, I've done things similar to what' si did, especially after 1.2. Can we opt out of being on the leader boards? _____________________ Touche.
Oz Spade ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,708	01-26-2004 20:34 Whats RSS? And why wouldn't you want to be on leader boards? _____________________ "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
Catherine Omega Geometry Ninja Join date: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 2,053	01-27-2004 04:55 Heh, why would you not want to be on the leader boards? Hmm, let me think... When I was at the top of all the leader boards, (except money) I would get IMs from 5-15 different people a day, all looking for help. This would be fine, except they were --without exception-- questions like, "how do I close SL?" and "how do I get points?" In the eyes of many a newbie, I was THE "best" person in SL and therefore the best person to ask for help. After all, I wouldn't be in the top slot otherwise, would I? As if that weren't irritating enough, there were quite a few residents in SL who were absolutely furious that I was "beating" them. How DARE I cheat them out of their rightful spot as "top resident"! Thankfully, a couple of them actually had the right idea, which was that the insane leader boards system was the mechanism by which our stipend bonus was calculated, meaning that if I was higher than them on the list, I was getting money that they weren't. And of course I was -- I couldn't have afforded my gigantic mansion without it. The combination of beancounters and newbies proved to be too annoying, and given that I had "burned out" on newbies, I found I had no desire to spend time teaching newbies how to chat or build, just to get a calling card and a rate. At all. ...so I came up with a new method of making money: hacking! Nah, I just sold stuff. The point is, if you're on the leader boards, particularly in the top spot, you will eventually have to deal with the dumbest and most annoying people in SL. (RSS, by the way, stands for "Rich Site Summary". It's an XML format for "syndicating" news headlines and similar data from one site to another. Most of the big portals and a lot of news sites use it. It's just a standard way of distributing content.)
Kex Godel Master Slacker Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 869	01-27-2004 10:07 Maybe I should start a bank so I can get on the boards and then help people =D You have to admit though that there's not much in the UI for newbies to go by to know who to ask for help. There's no UI system that lists the current Liasons, Mentors, or Instructors who are online. Newbies need something which is simple point and click to easily find and quickly access people who are willing to help. At least now I have a good excuse for trying to amass wealth =D
Nergal Fallingbridge meep. Join date: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 677	01-27-2004 12:59 From: someone Originally posted by Kex Godel Maybe I should start a bank so I can get on the boards and then help people =D You have to admit though that there's not much in the UI for newbies to go by to know who to ask for help. There's no UI system that lists the current Liasons, Mentors, or Instructors who are online. Newbies need something which is simple point and click to easily find and quickly access people who are willing to help. At least now I have a good excuse for trying to amass wealth =D Heh, banks have been tried before. I don't think any of them are still around -- at least, I haven't heard of one. _____________________ powered by caffeine since 1998! "In such ugly times, the only true protest is beauty." -- Phil Ochs
Oz Spade ReadsNoPostLongerThanHand Join date: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 2,708	01-27-2004 17:52 I wouldn't mind seeing the RSS thing... But being able to opt out of the leader boards... I dunno, why not just NOT have leader boards at all then? If half the people can and do opt out of being on them it becomes kind of pointless to have them. I think instead of opt out, to resolve the hassling from newbies add a "Get Help" button that will open up an IM to a Liason or Mentor or something. I like the leader boards, they give a goal when I want one. If people could opt out of being on them it would pretty much ruine the whole concept of it. _____________________ "Don't anticipate outcome," the man said. "Await the unfolding of events. Remain in the moment." - Konrad
Guzar Fonzarelli Ultrapantsy Join date: 8 Jan 2004 Posts: 40	01-27-2004 20:06 From: someone Originally posted by Catherine Omega ...RSS, by the way, stands for "Rich Site Summary"... Huh. I always thought it stood for "Really Simple Syndication"... but I guess both those and "RDF Site Summary" are all valid. _____________________ (Bad_CRC) I went to the hospital today, and it's called "olmstead medical group" so the whole place had "OMG OMG OMG" all over it.
si Money The nice demon. Join date: 21 May 2003 Posts: 477	01-27-2004 20:30 From: someone Originally posted by Oz Spade I wouldn't mind seeing the RSS thing... But being able to opt out of the leader boards... I dunno, why not just NOT have leader boards at all then? If half the people can and do opt out of being on them it becomes kind of pointless to have them. I think instead of opt out, to resolve the hassling from newbies add a "Get Help" button that will open up an IM to a Liason or Mentor or something. I like the leader boards, they give a goal when I want one. If people could opt out of being on them it would pretty much ruine the whole concept of it. I never got bugged by newbies, instead I got interrogated any time I did anything, because people decided I was only out to take money from people. It got progressively worse from there, but suffice it to say I don't care to ever be on the leader boards, as too many people in SL like to randomly make accusations about people. _____________________ Like a soul without a mind In a body without a heart I'm missing every part -- Progress -- Catherine Omega: Yes, but lots of stuff isn't listed. "Making UI harder to use than ever" and "removing all the necessary status icons" things.... there's nothing like that in the release notes.
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	01-27-2004 21:34 I think RSS should instead stand for RSS Site Summary or RSS Site Syndication GNU's Not Unix, WINE Is Not an Emulator... you know the drill
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	01-02-2005 19:46 We could do RSS feeds for the forums as well. I'm starting to use this and it'd be nice instead of having to visit a 100 different websites.. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Elle Pollack Takes internets seriously Join date: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 796	01-02-2005 20:43 New World Notes already has an RSS feed: http://secondlife.blogs.com/nwn/index.rdf or username hamletlinden if you have a Livejournal and want it syndicated on your friends page.