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paulie Femto

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03-16-2006 11:57

I understand that private estates are supposed to be islands, surrounded by water. Even if we build right up to the edge of our estate, there is still "water" in the distance. Even if we set our "water height" to 0, the water level in the distance doesnt change. We sre still surrounded by water.

How about an option for estate owners to change that? Maybe a "disable water in the distance" option or an ability to customize the "distant water" to some other texture.

Imagine my estate is supposed to be a jungle or a mountainous region. Water at the edge of the estate looks silly.

Thanks for reading.

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Eggy Lippmann

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03-16-2006 12:01

Great idea

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Argent Stonecutter

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03-16-2006 13:18

That would go along with the "set the skybox/sun/moon/..." request? Specify a "void water texture".

paulie Femto

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yeah

03-16-2006 13:48

That would probably go along with custom skyboxes. Wouldnt that rock?

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Draco18s Majestic

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03-16-2006 21:57

I like this idea. Not all private estates shouldn't look like islands even if they are (what about those remote regions deep in the mountains?

paulie Femto

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03-17-2006 12:05

What if you wanted to make your private estate into a "cyberspace" looking zone, with whizzing geometric shapes and floating strings of green data? Water would look pretty silly in the distance.

Yeah, I guess you could enclose the whole region in a box. But why should you have to? It would be great to have the freedom to really tailor a region to look the way you wanted.

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Nargus Asturias

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03-17-2006 16:50

now that rock!

I sure like the ability to at least turn off water

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Argent Stonecutter

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03-18-2006 14:16

How about this?

For a rectangular group of sims, join the north and south sides and east and west sides of the sim. The land tools, travel, everything else would treat it like a regular sim crossing. This would map the region onto a hypertorus... travel in any direction and you'll find yourself back where you started.

That way there's no problem with the sim borders... there aren't any. The physics and geometry is easy, too, because mapping to a hypertorus doesn't induce any curvature of the volume.

paulie Femto

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Argent, thats a great idea.

03-18-2006 14:44

From: someone

For a rectangular group of sims, join the north and south sides and east and west sides of the sim. The land tools, travel, everything else would treat it like a regular sim crossing. This would map the region onto a hypertorus... travel in any direction and you'll find yourself back where you started.

For combat sims, dat would rawk! You're an arcade game player from way back, aintcha, Argent! Thats old skool 2d arcade thinkin!

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Nargus Asturias

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03-18-2006 19:11

Wow. That's one of most interesting suggestion i've ever seen!

I still fear the problem/difficulty about sim loop-back though o.O you know...such implementation could easily lead to infinity loop...

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Argent Stonecutter

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03-18-2006 19:30

I've got a twisty topological mind.

It's pretty fractal too...

There absolutely won't be any loping for estates of 4 sims or larger.

A single sim or two sims would have to be carefully tested.

If it worked right it would let something like the dAlliez Islands become compacted, with each island sim looped back on itself.

custom "distance" option
paulie Femto Into the dark Join date: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,098	03-16-2006 11:57 I understand that private estates are supposed to be islands, surrounded by water. Even if we build right up to the edge of our estate, there is still "water" in the distance. Even if we set our "water height" to 0, the water level in the distance doesnt change. We sre still surrounded by water. How about an option for estate owners to change that? Maybe a "disable water in the distance" option or an ability to customize the "distant water" to some other texture. Imagine my estate is supposed to be a jungle or a mountainous region. Water at the edge of the estate looks silly. Thanks for reading. _____________________ REUTERS on SL: "Thirty-five thousand people wearing their psyches on the outside and all the attendant unfettered freakishness that brings."
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	03-16-2006 12:01 Great idea _____________________ Help us document Second Life history at http://slhistory.org!
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	03-16-2006 13:18 That would go along with the "set the skybox/sun/moon/..." request? Specify a "void water texture".
paulie Femto Into the dark Join date: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,098	yeah 03-16-2006 13:48 That would probably go along with custom skyboxes. Wouldnt that rock? _____________________ REUTERS on SL: "Thirty-five thousand people wearing their psyches on the outside and all the attendant unfettered freakishness that brings."
Draco18s Majestic Registered User Join date: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,744	03-16-2006 21:57 I like this idea. Not all private estates shouldn't look like islands even if they are (what about those remote regions deep in the mountains?
paulie Femto Into the dark Join date: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,098	cyberspace 03-17-2006 12:05 What if you wanted to make your private estate into a "cyberspace" looking zone, with whizzing geometric shapes and floating strings of green data? Water would look pretty silly in the distance. Yeah, I guess you could enclose the whole region in a box. But why should you have to? It would be great to have the freedom to really tailor a region to look the way you wanted. _____________________ REUTERS on SL: "Thirty-five thousand people wearing their psyches on the outside and all the attendant unfettered freakishness that brings."
Nargus Asturias Registered User Join date: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 499	03-17-2006 16:50 now that rock! I sure like the ability to at least turn off water _____________________ Nargus Asturias, aka, StreamWarrior Blue Eastern Water Dragon Brown-skinned Utahraptor from an Old Time
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	03-18-2006 14:16 How about this? For a rectangular group of sims, join the north and south sides and east and west sides of the sim. The land tools, travel, everything else would treat it like a regular sim crossing. This would map the region onto a hypertorus... travel in any direction and you'll find yourself back where you started. That way there's no problem with the sim borders... there aren't any. The physics and geometry is easy, too, because mapping to a hypertorus doesn't induce any curvature of the volume.
paulie Femto Into the dark Join date: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,098	Argent, thats a great idea. 03-18-2006 14:44 From: someone For a rectangular group of sims, join the north and south sides and east and west sides of the sim. The land tools, travel, everything else would treat it like a regular sim crossing. This would map the region onto a hypertorus... travel in any direction and you'll find yourself back where you started. For combat sims, dat would rawk! You're an arcade game player from way back, aintcha, Argent! Thats old skool 2d arcade thinkin! _____________________ REUTERS on SL: "Thirty-five thousand people wearing their psyches on the outside and all the attendant unfettered freakishness that brings."
Nargus Asturias Registered User Join date: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 499	03-18-2006 19:11 Wow. That's one of most interesting suggestion i've ever seen! I still fear the problem/difficulty about sim loop-back though o.O you know...such implementation could easily lead to infinity loop... _____________________ Nargus Asturias, aka, StreamWarrior Blue Eastern Water Dragon Brown-skinned Utahraptor from an Old Time
Argent Stonecutter Emergency Mustelid Join date: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 20,263	03-18-2006 19:30 I've got a twisty topological mind. It's pretty fractal too... There absolutely won't be any loping for estates of 4 sims or larger. A single sim or two sims would have to be carefully tested. If it worked right it would let something like the dAlliez Islands become compacted, with each island sim looped back on itself.

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