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Jarod Godel

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Join date: 6 Nov 2003

Posts: 729

05-31-2005 12:26

Been thinking on this for a bit, and I've come to the conclusion that SL/LL needs to ditch out of the XML-RPC racket. It's been hanging around the fringes for a while, and has yet to be fully implemented. We already have a means of I/O with llEmail.

Just an opinion. Any thoughts?

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

05-31-2005 12:53

There are a few cases when you're dealing with 4GL type languages / platforms that will connect via XML-RPC easily and you don't have a lot of access to underlying email protocols.

Though, I think a disclaimer on the XML-RPC commands that you should use email unless you have to use XML-RPC might be a good idea to keep people from wasting more time in the future.

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Jeffrey Gomez

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Join date: 11 Jun 2004

Posts: 3,522

05-31-2005 13:39

Plus XML-RPC connections in provide a simpler means of data transfer for small applications.

Like my IRC Bot.

I personally don't have the time to write an email handler/external server for something so simple.

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Escort DeFarge

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Join date: 18 Nov 2004

Posts: 681

05-31-2005 14:11

Maybe we should ditch email too and just post snailmail to lindenlab?

Seriously, ditching XML-RPC would be a real step back into the world of the 1980s...

Figuring out a strategy that would allow LL to be happy enough to expose llSendRemoteData is the real contribution that's needed.

My 2c.

/esc

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Adam Zaius

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Join date: 9 Jan 2004

Posts: 1,483

05-31-2005 14:31

Each has their advantages, XMLRPC handles synchronous transmission, Email handles asynchronous transmission. Losing either would be a great loss to the scripting community.

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Khamon Fate

fategardens.net

Join date: 21 Nov 2003

Posts: 4,177

06-01-2005 14:04

It must be difficult for the folks at LL to balance the concept of an alternate world, better than the real world, and having to provide us methods of communication that blur the lines between the two.

I suppose they would be happier if we stopped demanding ways to transfer data into and out of The Grid. So I'll go along with this and add that the external llEmail() should be dropped as well.

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Jarod Godel Utilitarian Join date: 6 Nov 2003 Posts: 729	05-31-2005 12:26 Been thinking on this for a bit, and I've come to the conclusion that SL/LL needs to ditch out of the XML-RPC racket. It's been hanging around the fringes for a while, and has yet to be fully implemented. We already have a means of I/O with llEmail. Just an opinion. Any thoughts? _____________________ "All designers in SL need to be aware of the fact that there are now quite simple methods of complete texture theft in SL that are impossible to stop..." - Cristiano Midnight Ad aspera per intelligentem prohibitus.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	05-31-2005 12:53 There are a few cases when you're dealing with 4GL type languages / platforms that will connect via XML-RPC easily and you don't have a lot of access to underlying email protocols. Though, I think a disclaimer on the XML-RPC commands that you should use email unless you have to use XML-RPC might be a good idea to keep people from wasting more time in the future. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Jeffrey Gomez Cubed™ Join date: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,522	05-31-2005 13:39 Plus XML-RPC connections in provide a simpler means of data transfer for small applications. Like my IRC Bot. I personally don't have the time to write an email handler/external server for something so simple. _____________________ ---
Escort DeFarge Together Join date: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 681	05-31-2005 14:11 Maybe we should ditch email too and just post snailmail to lindenlab? Seriously, ditching XML-RPC would be a real step back into the world of the 1980s... Figuring out a strategy that would allow LL to be happy enough to expose llSendRemoteData is the real contribution that's needed. My 2c. /esc _____________________ http://slurl.com/secondlife/Together
Adam Zaius Deus Join date: 9 Jan 2004 Posts: 1,483	05-31-2005 14:31 Each has their advantages, XMLRPC handles synchronous transmission, Email handles asynchronous transmission. Losing either would be a great loss to the scripting community. _____________________ Co-Founder / Lead Developer GigasSecondServer
Khamon Fate fategardens.net Join date: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 4,177	06-01-2005 14:04 It must be difficult for the folks at LL to balance the concept of an alternate world, better than the real world, and having to provide us methods of communication that blur the lines between the two. I suppose they would be happier if we stopped demanding ways to transfer data into and out of The Grid. So I'll go along with this and add that the external llEmail() should be dropped as well. _____________________ Visit the Fate Gardens Website @ fategardens.net