More prim allocation options for owned land

I've been kind of frustrated with the prim allocation for owned land! You take up half of it for a house, and the other half up with furniture. Leaving your yard pretty much empty and your large-ish 2032m2 parcel rather dull.

So I propose more prim allocation options that can be either bought, or exposed via land allotment tiers.

The first option could be an additional charge for an extra set amount of prims added to your land's max. Say $10 per extra 200 prims or so, and if you own more than one parcel they could be manually allocated between them. The second option is a little more complicated but is based on tier level.

Say I owned a 4096m2 tier level, but only used 2032m2 of it. Currently that gives you 465 prims for that parcel. Maybe we could be given the option of max prim allotment for that tier level for the parcel you did actually own? I'm not sure how many prims a 4096m2 parcel gives you, but say it gave you 1000 prims. Now I'm not currently using the total my tier supports, but it'd be cool if I could add that extra 1000 prims to my current 465 without actually owning more land.

The drawback of course would be that if you bought another 2032m2 of land, that it would of course be halfed between the two at 732 prims or so.

I'm not entirely sure if there's a reason why it's not done this way, but it seems to me that LL wouldn't be giving away anything free, and may even find another revenue of income.

The real problem is that a full sim can already load everything to where your frame rate suffers and it takes quite a while to load everything in your area. As I understand it, the limit is arbitrary, but it seems to be set well enough. If they allowed 200 extra prims for $10 a month and every person in an entire sim full of 512m^2 parcels did this, you'd end up with 25600 more prims on top of the preexisting limit of 15000 for that sim. So long as there wasn't much going on, the server might be able to handle it. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to spend much time in that sim though.

Okay well I can understand that reason, but what's the difference of owning one large 4096m2 parcel with 1465 prims (for arguement's sake) and a 2032m2 parcel with 1465 prims?

Because there are now more prims per square meter, hence more prims per server, hence more load. There is a finite amount of land per sim, which dictates that there is a finite supply of prims per sim. If I use 2000 prims, then everyone else cannot use those 2000 prims. If I suddenly double my prim allotment to 4000 prims, without increasing the amount of land I own, then suddenly there are 2000 new prims which the server needs to take care of. Unless you then remove those prims from someone else's allotment. But then you might as well just go back to the anarchy and hoarding of the past. Or just stick with the land-based system we currently have.

a sim = a server

a server has X processing power.

assume prims take an average % of processing power X

To be fair to landowners, that power has to be divided equally over the sim by m^2.

Ergo, # prims has to be dvided equally over the sim by m^2.

Hiro,

Though your statements are accurate, I'd like to obfuscate them some. I originally thought your proof was lacking, but in writing my own I realized we're both basically stating the same things and making the same assumptions. Meh.

A sim is physically constrained by its dimensions. In this case, it is a right rectangular prism with infinite height and a base with square sides measuring 256 meters per.

The Lindens have defined the maximum number of prims per sim to be 15000.

Your hypothetical parcel, which is 2032 sq meters, cannot exist in the same space as any other parcel, and so this area must be deducted from the total.

supports a number of prims which proportional to the area of your land divided by the total area of the sim.

Your plot thus supports 465 prims. Let us double that count, as you propose.

Let us then convert your prims back to the corresponding parcel of land which is required to support the now doubled prim count.

Because, the area of a sim is the sum of all parcels, we must add the area land_now to the area sim_remainder_original.

And thus,

Because

Therefore, you cannot physically have more prims per plot with the current constraints of 15000 prims per sim, and prim use being proportional to land area.

Ahhh. Late night pedantry. Now watch as someone comes along and blows big gaping hole in my logic.

Or simply: There are only X number of prims per server. They are divided up between all land owners acording to how much land they own. There are no more prims to buy.

If you own the whole sim, you can put every prim inside a 1 meter cube if you want to. (But anyone looking at it won't be able to look away for a while...)

it has been suggested on occassion that it would be nice to enter an av or group name and associate/assign a given number of prims to that person or group. this would only work if they already owned land in the sim of course.

anyway, this is a new feature so never mind.

As a complete newcomer to Second Life, I bought my land ready to create my own little slice of SL. I checked the land using the About Land option and saw that there were 900 primitives allowed on the land. Great , I thought and bought it. On taking ownership, that number dropped to 117. I thought I had made a mistake and so looked at the patch of land next to mine which is also for sale and low and behold that one too had a maximum prims value of over 900. I presume, in hindsight that this 900 prims value is for the entire patch of land, which the owner probably subdivided. Does this seem reasonable? or am I completely missing the boat on this prims issue.

Anyway, I built my house, put one chair, a tv, a coffin and a radio in it and it is now full. Which imho is, as we say in the UK, complete bollocks. I wish I'd never bought the land. It seems to me this land has already gone the way of 1st Life, especially in London, wherein it impossible to get on the property ladder or, if you do, forget about putting anything on your property.

In typical American fashion, those at LL have trouble communiating in the English language.

There are two numbers in the dialogue for prims, one for the lot you are examining and one for the total prims of all lots owned within the same sim. The way it's worded as to how many prims you actually will be getting is utterly confusing.

You will find many instances of such language confusion as you go through second life, but it's not their fault, they are American after all. One must give them a little more leeway than English speaking peoples when using the language.

117 is just about the standard number of 512m land. Too small yea. I guess that is why many people rent lands instead of bought them right away. The land owner many time granted the renters more prims than they normally get the land of that size.

I rent ~712 size myself. And have used up more than 600 prims. The sim owner is kind enough and let renter use as much prim as they like as long as it not too greedy and s/he don't need that prim himself.

If you can find a good sim owner to rent from, you'll enjoy the privacy and prim allowance they give

At least they should up the limit to 16384 prims per sim, so you could have an integral and constant number of prims per square meter!

No! It must be EXACTLY 0.2288818359375 prims to the sqaure meter!!!111!1one!
(And yes, that's what the actual value is)