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blaze Spinnaker

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12-29-2004 09:51

Events should have the option of a direct point to point teleport with a small minimum tax of say, 20 L$

That L$ would go to the event holder. They can keep it or return it as a prize.

I think this would really encourage people to hold great events that attract lots of people, it would also allow us all to directly teleport places.

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Alicia Eldritch

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12-29-2004 09:55

I fully endorse this solution!

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DoteDote Edison

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Join date: 6 Jun 2004

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12-29-2004 19:16

From: blaze Spinnaker

I think this would really encourage people to hold great events that attract lots of people, it would also allow us all to directly teleport places.

Do you seriously believe this? I think it would encourage more people to hold lousy events and then encourage them even moreso to send random TP offers... What's the point of holding an interesting event if the host is paid just for getting people to TP? There wouldn't be as much incentive to keep event-goers, only to attrct them long enough that they TP.

Korg Stygian

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Join date: 3 Jun 2004

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12-29-2004 19:23

I do NOT support this idea.

blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

12-29-2004 21:06

From: someone

Do you seriously believe this? I think it would encourage more people to hold lousy events and then encourage them even moreso to send random TP offers... What's the point of holding an interesting event if the host is paid just for getting people to TP? There wouldn't be as much incentive to keep event-goers, only to attrct them long enough that they TP.

Well, if people want to spend their money and leave .. That would be their perogative. Presumably if someone was going to an event and it was going to cost money they'd think twice before going:

Is this an event I want to go to?

Do I believe that the person hosting this event is going to make it wortwhile?

As for the "tp offer" .. not sure where that they came from. That would still be free.

Right now it's fairly impossible to get people to pay for events. Certain things, like classes, would probably occur much more frequently if people paid for them. If they got something, like a teleport out of the deal, they'd probably be more willing to pay.

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Daemioth Sklar

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Join date: 30 Jul 2003

Posts: 944

12-29-2004 21:07

I'm into it.

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DoteDote Edison

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Join date: 6 Jun 2004

Posts: 790

12-29-2004 22:12

Okay, I read the original suggestion as L$20 from LL to the event holder, not L$20 paid by the direct TP event-goer. So it's not as bad a suggestion as I first thought. That's what I get for trying to work and surf at the same time.

Isn't it possible to charge entrance fees for events, or even an entrance fee to access land. I think this is a good way to promote compelling content.... land owners create something everyone wants to be a part of, then charge a fee to access it. Since this has been possible for a long time, I think it's proof that most event-holders aren't concerned with creating compelling content.* Especially when a hollow cube, particles, streaming music, and L$10 giveaways seem to work just the same.

*I am aware that compelling content is relevant to the viewer and that hollow cubes seem very compelling to many SLers.

Zone Zamboni

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Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 31

12-29-2004 22:17

From: blaze Spinnaker

I think this would really encourage people to hold great events that attract lots of people, it would also allow us all to directly teleport places.

Events would be gamed even more than they now are.

Fee based direct teleport to events, fee going to event holder
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	12-29-2004 09:51 Events should have the option of a direct point to point teleport with a small minimum tax of say, 20 L$ That L$ would go to the event holder. They can keep it or return it as a prize. I think this would really encourage people to hold great events that attract lots of people, it would also allow us all to directly teleport places. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Alicia Eldritch the greatest newbie ever. Join date: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 267	12-29-2004 09:55 I fully endorse this solution! _____________________ <xNichG> anyone have a good way to visualize 3d vector fields and surfaces? <Nap> LSD? "Yeah, there's nothing like literal thirst to put metaphorical thirst into perspective" - Get Your War On "The political leader loves what you could become. It is only you he hates." - Allan Thornton
DoteDote Edison Thinks Too Much Join date: 6 Jun 2004 Posts: 790	12-29-2004 19:16 From: blaze Spinnaker I think this would really encourage people to hold great events that attract lots of people, it would also allow us all to directly teleport places. Do you seriously believe this? I think it would encourage more people to hold lousy events and then encourage them even moreso to send random TP offers... What's the point of holding an interesting event if the host is paid just for getting people to TP? There wouldn't be as much incentive to keep event-goers, only to attrct them long enough that they TP.
Korg Stygian Curmudgeon Extraordinaire Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 1,105	12-29-2004 19:23 I do NOT support this idea.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	12-29-2004 21:06 From: someone Do you seriously believe this? I think it would encourage more people to hold lousy events and then encourage them even moreso to send random TP offers... What's the point of holding an interesting event if the host is paid just for getting people to TP? There wouldn't be as much incentive to keep event-goers, only to attrct them long enough that they TP. Well, if people want to spend their money and leave .. That would be their perogative. Presumably if someone was going to an event and it was going to cost money they'd think twice before going: Is this an event I want to go to? Do I believe that the person hosting this event is going to make it wortwhile? As for the "tp offer" .. not sure where that they came from. That would still be free. Right now it's fairly impossible to get people to pay for events. Certain things, like classes, would probably occur much more frequently if people paid for them. If they got something, like a teleport out of the deal, they'd probably be more willing to pay. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Daemioth Sklar Lifetime Member Join date: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 944	12-29-2004 21:07 I'm into it. _____________________
DoteDote Edison Thinks Too Much Join date: 6 Jun 2004 Posts: 790	12-29-2004 22:12 Okay, I read the original suggestion as L$20 from LL to the event holder, not L$20 paid by the direct TP event-goer. So it's not as bad a suggestion as I first thought. That's what I get for trying to work and surf at the same time. Isn't it possible to charge entrance fees for events, or even an entrance fee to access land. I think this is a good way to promote compelling content.... land owners create something everyone wants to be a part of, then charge a fee to access it. Since this has been possible for a long time, I think it's proof that most event-holders aren't concerned with creating compelling content.* Especially when a hollow cube, particles, streaming music, and L$10 giveaways seem to work just the same. *I am aware that compelling content is relevant to the viewer and that hollow cubes seem very compelling to many SLers.
Zone Zamboni Registered User Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 31	12-29-2004 22:17 From: blaze Spinnaker I think this would really encourage people to hold great events that attract lots of people, it would also allow us all to directly teleport places. Events would be gamed even more than they now are.

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