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Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

09-30-2005 08:30

I am requesting an affordable feature that will allow small, landless merchants to get listed, so their business will show up when someone uses "Find" to search in-world for the business name, or for the types of merchandise that they sell. Right now there is no way to do that, aside from some expensive 'classified ads'.

I am a small-scale merchant, selling SL clothes. So far, I only have one small vending kiosk, located on group-owned property in the Forest Store. I've also been asked to set up a vendor, or at least an information kiosk, for an artist whom I represent in SL, so he can earn commissions doing fine art portraits for SL members, or so he can sell 'art prints' for use in SL. I'm just a basic-level member myself, with no land of my own. I can't afford to spend hundreds of L$ per week for a "classified ad" or for advertizing signs in SL. My sales volume just won't cover that kind of expense while I'm getting started.

Searches for 'clothing', 't-shirt', 'dress', and other terms that relate to items sold by my business show many other businesses which sell such things, but not mine. If you enter 'Ceera's Foxy Fashions' in a search, which is the exact name of my business, nothing comes back. There needs to be an affordable registration process that will allow 'landless' merchants to get listed in the Find function. A one-time fee of maybe L$50 to get registered would be fine with me. But small vendors like me can't afford a weekly or monthly drain on our profits.

Thanks!

Ceera Murakami
Ceera's Foxy Fashions
Forest Store, The Forest

Paolo Portocarrero

Puritanical Hedonist

Join date: 28 Apr 2004

Posts: 2,393

09-30-2005 08:34

Good idea! We really need some sort of human-editable, in-world search engine. Squagmire Stravinsky's InfoNet was a start, but I really think it needs to be a Linden-sponsored initiative for it to garner broad acceptance and use.

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ShadowEcho Mistral

Registered User

Join date: 27 Sep 2005

Posts: 6

09-30-2005 11:26

Sounds like a good idea to me, not only from a seller's perspective but from a buyer's one as well. I'd like to be able to know what's out there for sale besides just the big stores.

Anya Dmytryk

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Join date: 13 Jul 2005

Posts: 413

09-30-2005 12:51

ding ding ding...we have a winnah!!!

excellent idea

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Solar Ixtab

Seawolf Marine

Join date: 30 Dec 2004

Posts: 94

10-02-2005 03:49

Find places is pretty useless if you don't own land, this is true. It would be really nice if there was a generalized way to search for specific products that are for sale in the world. I'm sure there is alot of really nice products that I've never had a chance to really see because the only presence they have in the world is a rented vendor in a mall or suchlike.

That aside, do the telehub advertisers still work? I know that not too many people actually look at the thing, but last time I checked it was free, and you got to have a picture along with everything you can pack in a notecard.

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Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

10-03-2005 07:46

Telehub advertisers? I recall seeing some ad signs near telehubs, but I thought that was all paid ads. If some of those are free, I'll certainly seek to use them. Any info on those? Or on any other free/inexpensive modes of advertizing?

Strife Onizuka

Moonchild

Join date: 3 Mar 2004

Posts: 5,887

10-04-2005 02:13

This would lead to gross abuses. People would register every vending machine they owned. In an attempt to monopolize find.

Say you were looking for a dress, you type in "dress" and the first 50 hits are all vending machines owned by the same person.

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Kris Ritter

paradoxical embolism

Join date: 31 Oct 2003

Posts: 6,627

10-04-2005 03:30

From: Strife Onizuka

This would lead to gross abuses. People would register every vending machine they owned. In an attempt to monopolize find.

Say you were looking for a dress, you type in "dress" and the first 50 hits are all vending machines owned by the same person.

Unles it's listed by owner and only one result returned at a time - maybe based upon your own locality, or maybe a nested list by owner with one specifically highlighted. It's really not going to be hard to work something out that avoids that kind of abuse.

I like the idea.

CrystalShard Foo

1+1=10

Join date: 6 Feb 2004

Posts: 682

10-04-2005 03:36

I like the idea of the original poster.

And yea strife, it may be easy to abuse, but with some forward thinking, the abuse-able bits can be plugged. LL showed to have the ability to figure this stuff on their own - sometimes alittle too much, even. (Why do you think we still dont have Outgoing XML-RPC?)

This idea gets my stamp of approval. o.o

Ceera Murakami

Texture Artist / Builder

Join date: 9 Sep 2005

Posts: 7,750

10-04-2005 07:58

I'm sure that there could be some sort of easy-to-apply filter, so someone with 30 or so vending machines doesn't spam the search too badly. Remember, I am asking particularly for something to help the 'landless' merchants - the little guys with only a few vending outlets.

Perhaps the simplest thing would be to set a cap on how many 'direct listings' a given vendor can have? So if you had, say, 5 or fewer vendors, they all show. More than 5 lists as a link for a seperate sub-search that adds the owner name to the search key.

Vendor Registration for "Find" function needed
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	09-30-2005 08:30 I am requesting an affordable feature that will allow small, landless merchants to get listed, so their business will show up when someone uses "Find" to search in-world for the business name, or for the types of merchandise that they sell. Right now there is no way to do that, aside from some expensive 'classified ads'. I am a small-scale merchant, selling SL clothes. So far, I only have one small vending kiosk, located on group-owned property in the Forest Store. I've also been asked to set up a vendor, or at least an information kiosk, for an artist whom I represent in SL, so he can earn commissions doing fine art portraits for SL members, or so he can sell 'art prints' for use in SL. I'm just a basic-level member myself, with no land of my own. I can't afford to spend hundreds of L$ per week for a "classified ad" or for advertizing signs in SL. My sales volume just won't cover that kind of expense while I'm getting started. Searches for 'clothing', 't-shirt', 'dress', and other terms that relate to items sold by my business show many other businesses which sell such things, but not mine. If you enter 'Ceera's Foxy Fashions' in a search, which is the exact name of my business, nothing comes back. There needs to be an affordable registration process that will allow 'landless' merchants to get listed in the Find function. A one-time fee of maybe L$50 to get registered would be fine with me. But small vendors like me can't afford a weekly or monthly drain on our profits. Thanks! Ceera Murakami Ceera's Foxy Fashions Forest Store, The Forest
Paolo Portocarrero Puritanical Hedonist Join date: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 2,393	09-30-2005 08:34 Good idea! We really need some sort of human-editable, in-world search engine. Squagmire Stravinsky's InfoNet was a start, but I really think it needs to be a Linden-sponsored initiative for it to garner broad acceptance and use. _____________________ Facades by Paolo - Photo-Realistic Skins for Doods > Flagship store, Santo Paolo's Lofts & Boutiques > SLBoutique
ShadowEcho Mistral Registered User Join date: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 6	09-30-2005 11:26 Sounds like a good idea to me, not only from a seller's perspective but from a buyer's one as well. I'd like to be able to know what's out there for sale besides just the big stores.
Anya Dmytryk i <3 woxy! Join date: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 413	09-30-2005 12:51 ding ding ding...we have a winnah!!! excellent idea _____________________ Into the Mist Aglia (234,41) Darkwood (105,26) Elven Glen (129,10) Elven, fae, celtic & fantasy designs. Affordably priced avatars, wings, clothing, and more. Splashable water & waterfall L$1. SLboutique store SL Exchange Store
Solar Ixtab Seawolf Marine Join date: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 94	10-02-2005 03:49 Find places is pretty useless if you don't own land, this is true. It would be really nice if there was a generalized way to search for specific products that are for sale in the world. I'm sure there is alot of really nice products that I've never had a chance to really see because the only presence they have in the world is a rented vendor in a mall or suchlike. That aside, do the telehub advertisers still work? I know that not too many people actually look at the thing, but last time I checked it was free, and you got to have a picture along with everything you can pack in a notecard. _____________________ Despite our best efforts, something unexpected has gone wrong.
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	10-03-2005 07:46 Telehub advertisers? I recall seeing some ad signs near telehubs, but I thought that was all paid ads. If some of those are free, I'll certainly seek to use them. Any info on those? Or on any other free/inexpensive modes of advertizing?
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	10-04-2005 02:13 This would lead to gross abuses. People would register every vending machine they owned. In an attempt to monopolize find. Say you were looking for a dress, you type in "dress" and the first 50 hits are all vending machines owned by the same person. _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	10-04-2005 03:30 From: Strife Onizuka This would lead to gross abuses. People would register every vending machine they owned. In an attempt to monopolize find. Say you were looking for a dress, you type in "dress" and the first 50 hits are all vending machines owned by the same person. Unles it's listed by owner and only one result returned at a time - maybe based upon your own locality, or maybe a nested list by owner with one specifically highlighted. It's really not going to be hard to work something out that avoids that kind of abuse. I like the idea.
CrystalShard Foo 1+1=10 Join date: 6 Feb 2004 Posts: 682	10-04-2005 03:36 I like the idea of the original poster. And yea strife, it may be easy to abuse, but with some forward thinking, the abuse-able bits can be plugged. LL showed to have the ability to figure this stuff on their own - sometimes alittle too much, even. (Why do you think we still dont have Outgoing XML-RPC?) This idea gets my stamp of approval. o.o
Ceera Murakami Texture Artist / Builder Join date: 9 Sep 2005 Posts: 7,750	10-04-2005 07:58 I'm sure that there could be some sort of easy-to-apply filter, so someone with 30 or so vending machines doesn't spam the search too badly. Remember, I am asking particularly for something to help the 'landless' merchants - the little guys with only a few vending outlets. Perhaps the simplest thing would be to set a cap on how many 'direct listings' a given vendor can have? So if you had, say, 5 or fewer vendors, they all show. More than 5 lists as a link for a seperate sub-search that adds the owner name to the search key.

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