Second Life Forums Archive - Uncle Linden, when are we going to be able to simply sell everything on a parcel?

blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

02-07-2005 02:03

I want to buy a sim, develop it with roads / houses / etc and sell individual parcels to new players with everything on it (houses, cars, etc)

When are we going to have this functionality? I had heard that it had been bumped up to the #1 priority.

Technically, It seems to me that it's just a loop through all objects, if fully transferable (including all children) then change ownership, otherwise return to previous owner. What's the technical challenge? Why doesn't this show up in a patch?

Philip Linden himself suggested Land Developing as an activity he'd like to see in his blog.
Land developing simply isn't feasible without this functionality.

The overwhelming options that are available to new users can be very confusing. If they have a pre-existing build to adapt and alter until they get used to things, I can only imagine that this would be very beneficial - for everyone.

This is also a great way to zone without forcing players down a path. By having pre-existing builds, then the sim will already have a pretty strong feel to it.

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Eggy Lippmann

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Join date: 1 May 2003

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02-07-2005 06:09

I would like a "Sell To" feature for objects.

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Kris Ritter

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Join date: 31 Oct 2003

Posts: 6,627

02-07-2005 06:37

From: Eggy Lippmann

I would like a "Sell To" feature for objects.

I would like a 'dont sell to' option for all my objects! Like a personal ban list of people I don't want to deal with owning my stuff.

Shawn Marten

Who.... me?!

Join date: 6 Apr 2004

Posts: 15

Amen!

02-07-2005 08:18

From: Kris Ritter

I would like a 'dont sell to' option for all my objects! Like a personal ban list of people I don't want to deal with owning my stuff.

I never thought of that before... but i agree completely. There have been a few cases where i wish i could just say "No, I'm Not Selling To You".

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Paradigm Brodsky

Hmmm, How do I set this?

Join date: 28 Apr 2004

Posts: 206

02-07-2005 21:44

From: Shawn Marten

I never thought of that before... but i agree completely. There have been a few cases where i wish i could just say "No, I'm Not Selling To You".

I third that! Sorry to contribute to the changing of the topic, (I hate when people do that) but I've meet people in the past who knew how to and practiced the copy of no-copy items, and if I could I would block them from ever getting a product of mine from any source.

BUt if someone really wanted to steal they could just get another account I guess. But in many cases they wont go through that trouble.

/me punishes self for going off topic

I also like the original topic idea. Seems like something I would already expect.

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Uncle Linden

Member

Join date: 14 Dec 2004

Posts: 62

02-08-2005 09:55

When? I am not sure. But I will look into it and try to get an idea - if,how,when.

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CalvinRichard Klein

Registered User

Join date: 21 Sep 2004

Posts: 160

02-08-2005 09:56

Dont worry about that uncle be more concerned with fixing the im to email feature so that we actually get ims when they are sent and not 9-20 hours later.

Burke Prefect

Cafe Owner, Superhero

Join date: 29 Oct 2004

Posts: 2,785

02-08-2005 12:46

From: CalvinRichard Klein

Dont worry about that uncle be more concerned with fixing the im to email feature so that we actually get ims when they are sent and not 9-20 hours later.

Dude, give it a rest. This is for per-feature suggestions. If you want live IM-Email then you can pay me to log in as you and repost your IMs to email.

Shawn Marten

Who.... me?!

Join date: 6 Apr 2004

Posts: 15

All Apologies

02-08-2005 13:51

I just wanted to say that i'm sorry i went off topic as well.....

but, yes Blaze, that is a good idea for full parcel sale with all objects

*scurrys back to cage*

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blaze Spinnaker

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Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

02-09-2005 06:06

Great, thanks Uncle

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

02-11-2005 12:04

Geez.. this isn't even on the bug queue radar.

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Moleculor Satyr

Fireflies!

Join date: 5 Jan 2004

Posts: 2,650

02-11-2005 12:45

From: blaze Spinnaker

Geez.. this isn't even on the bug queue radar.

It's not a bug.

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blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

02-12-2005 17:34

Oh, I dunno about that.

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Hiro Pendragon

bye bye f0rums!

Join date: 22 Jan 2004

Posts: 5,905

02-12-2005 17:39

This would be a great feature, although right now an advantageous person could script a box to move around a sim and rez everything. Then it's just the box to sell.

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Uncle Linden, when are we going to be able to simply sell everything on a parcel?
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	02-07-2005 02:03 I want to buy a sim, develop it with roads / houses / etc and sell individual parcels to new players with everything on it (houses, cars, etc) When are we going to have this functionality? I had heard that it had been bumped up to the #1 priority. Technically, It seems to me that it's just a loop through all objects, if fully transferable (including all children) then change ownership, otherwise return to previous owner. What's the technical challenge? Why doesn't this show up in a patch? Philip Linden himself suggested Land Developing as an activity he'd like to see in his blog. Land developing simply isn't feasible without this functionality. The overwhelming options that are available to new users can be very confusing. If they have a pre-existing build to adapt and alter until they get used to things, I can only imagine that this would be very beneficial - for everyone. This is also a great way to zone without forcing players down a path. By having pre-existing builds, then the sim will already have a pretty strong feel to it. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Eggy Lippmann Wiktator Join date: 1 May 2003 Posts: 7,939	02-07-2005 06:09 I would like a "Sell To" feature for objects. _____________________ Help us document Second Life history at http://slhistory.org!
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	02-07-2005 06:37 From: Eggy Lippmann I would like a "Sell To" feature for objects. I would like a 'dont sell to' option for all my objects! Like a personal ban list of people I don't want to deal with owning my stuff.
Shawn Marten Who.... me?! Join date: 6 Apr 2004 Posts: 15	Amen! 02-07-2005 08:18 From: Kris Ritter I would like a 'dont sell to' option for all my objects! Like a personal ban list of people I don't want to deal with owning my stuff. I never thought of that before... but i agree completely. There have been a few cases where i wish i could just say "No, I'm Not Selling To You". _____________________ I'm trying to see things from your point of view... but I can't get my head that far up my ass!
Paradigm Brodsky Hmmm, How do I set this? Join date: 28 Apr 2004 Posts: 206	02-07-2005 21:44 From: Shawn Marten I never thought of that before... but i agree completely. There have been a few cases where i wish i could just say "No, I'm Not Selling To You". I third that! Sorry to contribute to the changing of the topic, (I hate when people do that) but I've meet people in the past who knew how to and practiced the copy of no-copy items, and if I could I would block them from ever getting a product of mine from any source. BUt if someone really wanted to steal they could just get another account I guess. But in many cases they wont go through that trouble. /me punishes self for going off topic I also like the original topic idea. Seems like something I would already expect. _____________________ I'll do anything for love, most things for money, and some things for a smile.
Uncle Linden Member Join date: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 62	02-08-2005 09:55 When? I am not sure. But I will look into it and try to get an idea - if,how,when. _____________________ uncle
CalvinRichard Klein Registered User Join date: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 160	02-08-2005 09:56 Dont worry about that uncle be more concerned with fixing the im to email feature so that we actually get ims when they are sent and not 9-20 hours later.
Burke Prefect Cafe Owner, Superhero Join date: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 2,785	02-08-2005 12:46 From: CalvinRichard Klein Dont worry about that uncle be more concerned with fixing the im to email feature so that we actually get ims when they are sent and not 9-20 hours later. Dude, give it a rest. This is for per-feature suggestions. If you want live IM-Email then you can pay me to log in as you and repost your IMs to email.
Shawn Marten Who.... me?! Join date: 6 Apr 2004 Posts: 15	All Apologies 02-08-2005 13:51 I just wanted to say that i'm sorry i went off topic as well..... but, yes Blaze, that is a good idea for full parcel sale with all objects scurrys back to cage _____________________ I'm trying to see things from your point of view... but I can't get my head that far up my ass!
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	02-09-2005 06:06 Great, thanks Uncle _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	02-11-2005 12:04 Geez.. this isn't even on the bug queue radar. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Moleculor Satyr Fireflies! Join date: 5 Jan 2004 Posts: 2,650	02-11-2005 12:45 From: blaze Spinnaker Geez.. this isn't even on the bug queue radar. It's not a bug. _____________________ </sarcasm>
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	02-12-2005 17:34 Oh, I dunno about that. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Hiro Pendragon bye bye f0rums! Join date: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 5,905	02-12-2005 17:39 This would be a great feature, although right now an advantageous person could script a box to move around a sim and rez everything. Then it's just the box to sell. _____________________ Hiro Pendragon ------------------ http://www.involve3d.com - Involve - Metaverse / Emerging Media Studio Visit my SL blog: http://secondtense.blogspot.com

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