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Dweia Edo

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01-01-2006 22:29

This is the Lindens stand on it.... I think we have chances here

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Strife Onizuka

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Join date: 3 Mar 2004

Posts: 5,887

01-01-2006 22:36

imho you are unlikely to make any headway, everything imaginable has been suggested and argued. Ok not everything but just about.

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Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence.
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Torley Linden

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Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

01-01-2006 22:56

It's "just" online status invisibility (NOT avatar invisibility). Even if someone tried to greef you when not showing up as online, one of several possibilities emerges:

-you see them attack you
-they show up on PvP Abuse
-you send them an IM to ask what in the heck is going on, and it doesn't give you a "User is offline" message.

O BTW that makes me think, maybe it should say "Resident is offline" instead... hrmmm!

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Dweia Edo

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01-02-2006 01:33

I didn't really get the whole griefing point about this anyway.... About attacking: How's having your online status hidden when attacking someone any different to for example attacking someone and logging out after that? If someone wants to grief like that, they have ways to do it already.... I simply can't see any negative sides about being able to choose wether to announce you're there, or keep to yourself.

Aaron Levy

Medicated Lately?

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,147

01-02-2006 02:23

I don't think Robin got what the question was about.

Online status invisibility seems to most people like a no-brainer. I mean, c'mon... the AOL Instant Messager supports it.

I'm not sure how one could grief by having their online status masked. If that person were to interact with anyone, they would obviously appear to be online to that person.

I'm looking forward to the new IM API that was discussed recently. I think online status is going to be tied to the new open-source IM system they are -hopefully- working on. I say hopefully because they said they are, but have released no details.

I think the one good thing that The Matrix Online contributed to the MMOPRG world was the idea that the in-game IM system could and should be linked to the outside world. I forget which one it was linked to, but your in-game IM system could be logged into outside the game using, I think it was MSN Messenger.

LL has openly said they are moving to an open-source solution to increase compatibility, which I think is very good.

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Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

01-02-2006 03:04

From: Aaron Levy

I think the one good thing that The Matrix Online contributed to the MMOPRG world was the idea that the in-game IM system could and should be linked to the outside world. I forget which one it was linked to, but your in-game IM system could be logged into outside the game using, I think it was MSN Messenger.

Yes, this is definitely a leap towards better immersion and integration with "outside" systems. Making Second Life a fuller part of someone's whole life.

Something that still annoys me is how SL has no "message catcher" or logging system, apart from IM-to-email, which gets problematic past 25 IMs, since when you log in, the newest ones to arrive will be capped off.

I'd like to log on and off very quickly without fear of missing something, but all too often, that's just what happens! Someone sends me an IM five seconds before I log, and I miss it.

Great inconvenience it is for me, because Second Life is a very intensive program, and not the easiest to multitask with when I do other things.

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Dweia Edo Registered Ab-user Join date: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 35	01-01-2006 22:29 This is the Lindens stand on it.... I think we have chances here /invalid_link.html
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	01-01-2006 22:36 imho you are unlikely to make any headway, everything imaginable has been suggested and argued. Ok not everything but just about. _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	01-01-2006 22:56 It's "just" online status invisibility (NOT avatar invisibility). Even if someone tried to greef you when not showing up as online, one of several possibilities emerges: -you see them attack you -they show up on PvP Abuse -you send them an IM to ask what in the heck is going on, and it doesn't give you a "User is offline" message. O BTW that makes me think, maybe it should say "Resident is offline" instead... hrmmm! _____________________
Dweia Edo Registered Ab-user Join date: 23 Feb 2005 Posts: 35	01-02-2006 01:33 I didn't really get the whole griefing point about this anyway.... About attacking: How's having your online status hidden when attacking someone any different to for example attacking someone and logging out after that? If someone wants to grief like that, they have ways to do it already.... I simply can't see any negative sides about being able to choose wether to announce you're there, or keep to yourself.
Aaron Levy Medicated Lately? Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,147	01-02-2006 02:23 I don't think Robin got what the question was about. Online status invisibility seems to most people like a no-brainer. I mean, c'mon... the AOL Instant Messager supports it. I'm not sure how one could grief by having their online status masked. If that person were to interact with anyone, they would obviously appear to be online to that person. I'm looking forward to the new IM API that was discussed recently. I think online status is going to be tied to the new open-source IM system they are -hopefully- working on. I say hopefully because they said they are, but have released no details. I think the one good thing that The Matrix Online contributed to the MMOPRG world was the idea that the in-game IM system could and should be linked to the outside world. I forget which one it was linked to, but your in-game IM system could be logged into outside the game using, I think it was MSN Messenger. LL has openly said they are moving to an open-source solution to increase compatibility, which I think is very good. _____________________ Rezzations.com Home of the Trivia Stadium
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	01-02-2006 03:04 From: Aaron Levy I think the one good thing that The Matrix Online contributed to the MMOPRG world was the idea that the in-game IM system could and should be linked to the outside world. I forget which one it was linked to, but your in-game IM system could be logged into outside the game using, I think it was MSN Messenger. Yes, this is definitely a leap towards better immersion and integration with "outside" systems. Making Second Life a fuller part of someone's whole life. Something that still annoys me is how SL has no "message catcher" or logging system, apart from IM-to-email, which gets problematic past 25 IMs, since when you log in, the newest ones to arrive will be capped off. I'd like to log on and off very quickly without fear of missing something, but all too often, that's just what happens! Someone sends me an IM five seconds before I log, and I miss it. Great inconvenience it is for me, because Second Life is a very intensive program, and not the easiest to multitask with when I do other things. _____________________

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