"Ban (name) and all alts"
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Unhygienix Gullwing
I banged Pandastrong
Join date: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 728
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09-14-2004 16:30
Perhaps this has been suggested before, I'd be suprised if it hasn't been.
If I ban someone from my parcel or a private sim that I own, I don't want them coming back with an alt name 3 minutes later. I don't want bloody vengance from their altenate accounts. I want them gone, totally.
Please give us the ability to apply restrictions to all alternates on the same CC# as the the avatar that we ban from our parcel. If and when it becomes possible to set permissions to avatars on an individual level for our land, (Enter/build/no edit/no scripts for example) Please allow us to apply the same permission set to all alternates on the same CC#.
I don't want to know what their alt account names are, or what they're doing in different avatars. I don't care what they're doing, as long as I can keep them from doing it in my parcel. In my land's list of "Banned Persons", I can simply be show "John Avatar (and all alts)".
I realize that this could potentially ban some household members who are using the same CC# as someone else in their house, for actions that they didn't do. I don't care. If a husband and wife are both using the same CC# for their accounts, and one suddenly finds themselves banned from a slew of places because of things that their spouse is doing, then perhaps they will find a way to assist in correcting the other's behavior.
I did a search on this, but ther's a 4-letter minimum and both "ban" and "alt" are below that, so I either came up with nothing, or too much, depending on the keywords that I used. Has this been suggested before? if not, what do people think about it?
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Moleculor Satyr
Fireflies!
Join date: 5 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,650
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09-14-2004 16:53
I agree with this post.
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Pituca FairChang
Married to Garth
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 2,679
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09-14-2004 18:26
Ban an IP number?
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Unhygienix Gullwing
I banged Pandastrong
Join date: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 728
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09-14-2004 19:01
No, ban all accounts associated with the same Credit Card number. At least that's the best way I can think of, because people have easy ways of getting past IP bans. It won't be foolproof even so, but will require a decent amount of time money and energy to get around.
So, this would mean that if you and Garth were paying for your accounts on the same credit card, he might get banned from lands where you get banned from. As if either of you ever do the sort of awful horrible things that people get banned from parcels for doing. You both are so dern likeable.
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Moleculor Satyr
Fireflies!
Join date: 5 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,650
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09-14-2004 19:36
Personally, I'd prefer the ban-by-CC#. Anyone idiotic enough to be closely associated enough with an idiot to use their credit card is most likely an idiot too.
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Chosen Few
Alpha Channel Slave
Join date: 16 Jan 2004
Posts: 7,496
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09-14-2004 20:07
Why not do both? Ban by CC# and IP. Most people have more than one credit card. Nothing is 100%, so every little bit helps. If someone wants to take all the trouble to switch credit cards AND mask their IP address just to enter your parcel, they've got way too much time on their hands.
EIDT: Just occurred to me, no matter how many credit cards someone has, it's likely that all the cards have the same billing address. This is an easy way to match accounts.
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Pituca FairChang
Married to Garth
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 2,679
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09-14-2004 21:41
From: someone Originally posted by Unhygienix Gullwing So, this would mean that if you and Garth were paying for your accounts on the same credit card, he might get banned from lands where you get banned from. As if either of you ever do the sort of awful horrible things that people get banned from parcels for doing. You both are so dern likeable. Why thanks Unhygienix! Such nice words! hehe, I know this banning of CC, IP, same address is maybe difficult to be fair about. I do know of one case where we have a players brother banned from our land. I would hate to have her banned too because of his idiocy.
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Tito Gomez
Mi Vida Loca
Join date: 1 Aug 2004
Posts: 921
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09-15-2004 05:37
The majority of ISPs, at least in the USA, do not provide a static IP, so banning an IP would be no good. Also it is in fact fairly simple to change the IP your're coming from.
CC banning is best. I don't think that if I was banned, my wife would be too interested on mixing with the person that banned me anyway.
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Essence Lumin
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Join date: 24 Oct 2003
Posts: 806
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09-20-2004 21:03
No one mentioned the choice of LL putting something in the registry or something to uniquely identify that computer and sending that back with all logins from that computer.
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Moleculor Satyr
Fireflies!
Join date: 5 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,650
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09-20-2004 23:29
From: someone Originally posted by Essence Lumin No one mentioned the choice of LL putting something in the registry or something to uniquely identify that computer and sending that back with all logins from that computer. That can be altered, changed, updated at will by the user. Or at the very least removed, at which point SL just makes a new (different) one. That's why it wasn't mentioned. It won't work. Besides, IP/CC# already exists, and is a much more 'guaranteed' method of banning.
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Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
Join date: 3 Mar 2004
Posts: 5,887
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09-21-2004 01:02
you could in theory ban an ip address from your land. First off you would need your own music server. It assumes that people have the streaming audio turned on. What you do is send a message (xml-rpc or email) from your server when people connect to it and match it against who just entered the parcle. If the IP is banned (which you would send in the email) your ingame script would boot them. The scripts both server side and SL side would have to be smart enough to identify and match users with IP's. what you could do is setup a large number of VolumeDetect prims that encompass the area you want to control and watch for collision start and stops. This method would be prone to failure.
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Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
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09-21-2004 02:44
I agree! Ban Alts when you ban one, ban them all!
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