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Tabatha Hegel
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06-21-2006 18:12
Now that we have good support for retrieving web pages using the HTTP requests, can we have a simple PDF viewer for viewing PDF documents on a website?

I think this would be great for providing virtual libraries, or book publishers - imagine the next novel from your favourite author being only available in SL!
Seronis Zagato
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06-21-2006 19:08
No. The PDF format is bloated and slow to process by its technical requirements. Stick to html its a lot cleaner.
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Phoenix Psaltery
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06-21-2006 19:28
From: Seronis Zagato
No. The PDF format is bloated and slow to process by its technical requirements. Stick to html its a lot cleaner.


There's nothing inherently bloated about a PDF file. It's Adobe's reader software that is bloatware. Now, if you wanna talk about a bloated and slow program, let's talk Microsoft Word... hell, anything Microsoft, for that matter.

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Seronis Zagato
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06-21-2006 20:46
From: Phoenix Psaltery
There's nothing inherently bloated about a PDF file. It's Adobe's reader software that is bloatware. Now, if you wanna talk about a bloated and slow program, let's talk Microsoft Word... hell, anything Microsoft, for that matter.

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AGreed !! But the spec for PDF files themselves is ineffecient. Check out the source code for any of the unix pdf viewers that are OSS. No links off hand but its oogly.
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Reitsuki Kojima
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06-22-2006 07:20
From: Phoenix Psaltery
There's nothing inherently bloated about a PDF file. It's Adobe's reader software that is bloatware. Now, if you wanna talk about a bloated and slow program, let's talk Microsoft Word... hell, anything Microsoft, for that matter.

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Use Foxit Reader - opens as fast as I can click on a PDF :)
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Tabatha Hegel
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06-22-2006 07:41
I don't want to get into Microsoft-bashing really (although it is fun, I know), but it's the Windows Acrobat Reader program that is big and bloated and can make people think that PDF's are a bad format.

It's not like I'm asking for the entire Acrobat suite of programs, just a simple reader to start with. Nothing fancy, just the ability to flick through a PDF document, rendered as a texture on an object.
Siobhan Taylor
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06-22-2006 07:54
From: Tabatha Hegel
I don't want to get into Microsoft-bashing really (although it is fun, I know), but it's the Windows Acrobat Reader program that is big and bloated and can make people think that PDF's are a bad format.

It's not like I'm asking for the entire Acrobat suite of programs, just a simple reader to start with. Nothing fancy, just the ability to flick through a PDF document, rendered as a texture on an object.
The talk about bloat isn't all MS ashing. Firstly, the PDF reader is Adobe, not MS.. but when a software company puts a flight-simulator into a spreadsheet as an "easter egg" (Excel 97 IIRC) then that is needless bloat... and as such deserves a quick bash now and then.
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Nekokami Dragonfly
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06-22-2006 09:26
From: Tabatha Hegel
imagine the next novel from your favourite author being only available in SL!

I don't see how this would follow. If you're retrieving the PDF using HTTP, it would be available outside SL, wouldn't it?

This feature wouldn't bother me, as I don't see the risks inherent with something like, say, javascript parsing, but it's not anywhere near the top of my list of priorities. I don't go in to SL to read lengthy text, formatted or otherwise. (Talk about a bloated PDF reader!)

neko
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Idea on dealing with PDF
06-22-2006 13:24
Couldnt SL pass off a link to a PDF to the (avalible reader) on the system and open a browser window and just handle it that way... That way one could *see* a PDF that is avalible at say an SL Kiosk or something, or for use for a form or such, but not bog down with processing it inworld?
Seronis Zagato
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06-22-2006 16:03
Now theres something i support. People use their installed viewer and no client bloat.
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Draco18s Majestic
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06-22-2006 18:26
From: Nekokami Dragonfly
I don't see how this would follow. If you're retrieving the PDF using HTTP, it would be available outside SL, wouldn't it?


Not nessessarily. I have a flash animation I started following the book Dragoncharm. It can be found on the internet, but if I don't link you to it, you'll never find it. Same thing applies to the pdf. The link to it can only be found in SL (such as paying L$1000 or whatever to a vendor and having the ingame browser pop up with the book--last I checked the URL of those pages wasn't displayed).