Automatic Logging (like many IRC clients have)

I have a feature suggestion: allow Automatic Logging to be enabled on the client side, which is a feature that many IRC-based chat programs use.

The reason I suggested this is because I like to keep logs of encounters to help me remember things, and every time Second Life crashes I lose hours worth of Chat History. I'm getting really tired of losing stuff in crashes.

I might be wrong, but I think having chat logs might be against ToS... again, could be wrong.

That would explain the lack of logging ability.

LF

Posting private information (ie. private chats) is against the ToS. Chat logging would facilitate posting that information. Hence, no chat loggers.

QED.

I disagree. If LL were really serious about making it impossible to save chat logs, they'd alter the history window so that you can't select and copy. Just because posting the logs is against the TOS doesn't mean keeping a log is against the TOS. Walking around with no clothes on in a PG sim is against the TOS, too, but they haven't made the code so that you can't take off all your clothing layers in PG sims. ('Twould be silly, anyway, as you could upload an alpha texture for whatever layer you would have to keep. I can't figure out how they're going to manage this on the Teen Grid.) There are legitimate reasons to shift layers of clothing around, so we have that capability in all sims. There are legitimate reasons to save chat and IM logs. They just haven't implemented the most obvious and efficient means of doing so.

I suspect if there were a proposal with enough votes, they'd look into it, but right now they seem stunned by the "unexpected" popularity of "try & buy".

neko

WHAT??

That has to be THE dumbest reason to NOT implement logging capability!

EVERY other chat program that I know of has logging capability. And most chat network admins don't like the idea of posting private chat logs, but they don't actively try to stop logging because the benefits outweigh the risks.

Keeping logs helps me remember things. If I don't log, I eventually forget.


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Your logic is flawed. The ability to do that already exists, its called cut-and-paste into Notecards or into any outside-SL-document.

Just providing the ability, does not mean that people will automatically begin abusing it.

"Selling sharp knives would facilitate an increase in stabbing homicides"

"Selling alcohol to legal-age drinkers would facilitate more drunk driving"

Do you see how ridiculous this sounds? Everyone else does.

If the ability was there (and it already is, just not as simple as a single checkbox, at least in the standard SL client... there are at least two other SL clients which allow chat and DO log), people who abuse it, violating the TOS, should be ejected/banned. Problem solved.

Besides, nobody at LL or in SL can tell that I'm cutting and pasting anything out of SL, unless they're tracking vector mouse movements (I use the Linux client, no need to ^C/^V to cut and paste anywhere, though since keystrokes are sent to the grid, they COULD trap that and capture what is in the buffer at that point).

Anything is possible... and like I've mentioned in a previous thread, how do we know LL/SL isn't already logging everything we say, in case they get subponead for information from a court?

We don't.

Providing a way to log on the client side protects the client against false accusations of abuse or illegal activity through SL.

My company built a chat logger for one of my clients. It requires an opt-in -- anyone who doesn't opt in doesn't get logged. Prior to building it, we checked to make sure it wouldn't violate the TOS. Nifty gadget -- looks like a microphone.