Elegant solution to landrights & public airspace

Problem: Where does public airspace begin? Should we allow satellites? What about the load on our sims?

The call is out for a technical solution, since legislation will only hold back the floodgates so long. As SL -> Metaverse, and outside data miners flood into SL, we will be deluged
with satellite networks, both in and out of the TOS/CS.

What I propose is a radical idea, and I obviously don't know if it's viable or not, but architecturally, I think it's a very elegant solution to the impending issues we face.

(scroll down to the line of ****'s for the suggestion and to skip the back-story)

Andrew Linden proposed the following:


I gave him the following response


1. 300m... I don't like this because it doesn't allow for:
- Superhigh skyscrapers (which Avalon proves are just so cool looking)
- Space stations
- High altitude airports / bungee pads / parachuting pads / etc
- It's just plain restrictive on landowners' rights.

Given that scripts start to act wonky at 512m... it doesn't leave us much choices, though. I agree there should be some public airspace, but ... I don't think a hard limit will solve this. At least one this low... perhaps something 2-3km+ is more reasonable...

2. I like this idea. I think 20m is good for X/Y, but Z should be more like... 50? 20m is barely a tap of the keyboard.

3. I don't like this, because it's too easy to workaroud. People could put up additional phantom invisible prims to extend their control area, and I don't think this is productive or necessary. Besides, this leaves us gun designers having to deal with our bullets disappearing where they shouldn't...

4. I think the idea of capping temp on rez objects in a sim is a great idea. 1000 seems reasonable for now. (1024 instead? heheh)

The counter-question I pose is: How is priority given? As the Metave... SL expands, there's bound to always be growth above any cap's ability. And, unlike Moore's law, where computing power is doubled every 18 months, Internet growth has been shown to be more exponential ... so I doubt this is a really scalable solution.

My personal prediction is once outside commercial sites catch on to SL and move in, we're gonna see a lot of data mining and a LOT of attempts to have spy satellites / data collectors. Maybe the solution to this will require something really innovative... like moving upper airspace even higher...
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What about dividing airspace onto new servers? Quite literally, make ground level sims, and then airspace sims.... the airspace can be shared on seperate server than regular sims, and servers could host multiple airspace sims, like the current "filler" sims are, and then this way the whole process of limiting use and landowner rights become clear and simpler. I realize this adds a whole 3rd dimension to the "what sim is XYZ in" algorithm, but for one variable change, it could consolodate a whole bunch of others.

To get back to the current topic - Satellites would not be operating on someone's sim, and they could drop probes down if they needed to collect data - and at that, it could be limited how often they would be allowed to. Then processing of whether they are allowed below can be done on the airpsace server, rather than the landowners' server.

I was also thinking long-long term, once LL releases source code / API for SL and run their own servers, LL would have a mechanism to guarantee airspace over any sim.

So, in summary:

- Airspace above a high level (2-3km+)
- Seperate servers for Airspace
- Servers for airspace could be shared, much like the filler sims
- Permissions processing done in the Airspace sims and don't interfere with landowners' sim CPU time
- Landowner rights secured
- Airpspace ensured
- Satellite networks restricted, but enabled in a more scalable way

Well for every ground sim you have you wold need a air sim and the same if you wanted space sims. because of this land growth in sl would slow down so if they were to do this the land has to be at a set number so that sl isnt wasting itsd money

Silliest thing I ever heard.
I can't believe Andrew is actually looking at that as a serious solution.
Global projects like LBv2 are not common enough to warrant special attention from LL.
As soon as they implement the new script resource allocation system, there will be no problem with laggy builds, or laggy global projects, or anything really.
You will get a timeslice for your scripts, proportional to the amount of land owned, so I imagine that people who don't own any land in the sim will have their scripts throttled so as not to cause any impact on your perceived performance.

Ascending to two kilometers takes a really long time. I'd have to punch the afterburners, fly straight up for the better part of a minute, then fly where I am headed to, and then try to control my plane in a 90-degree nosedive that also lasts for the better part of a minute. If I do it like planes do it in the real world (i.e. fly up to that airspace and then down to the destination in an arc) I still have to worry about getting killed on the way up or down because of someone's sex box.

The way I do it now is climb aggressively to at least 900 meters AGL, fly across the grid, and then take my chances getting down. In some places I know flight paths that I can use without getting killed, so I descend in an arc. Other places I either spiral down or take my chances with a nosedive. (Those are tough, especially with the vertical attractor turned on, and pulling out of a dive is tricky in planes that have quasi-realistic physics. Especially when the framerate suddenly takes a dive of its own, while a ton of geometry shows up.)

For the time being, 900+ meters is good enough for me, but it's really a band-aid and it doesn't fix the problem of sex boxes killing people who are just trying to get somewhere and are not interested in whatever hideous spectacle is going on inside of said sex boxes.

What I find irritating and I guess, mildly comical are eject-from-land systems that are placed at like 150m vertical....I mean, cmon....it isn't even out of unassisted flight height!

Gah.

Silliest thing I ever heard.