Group title make them a diffrent colour from names

I know it can be hard to see where title stops and where name begins. Espesially for the new people starting out.
By having the title have a diffrent colour this would be made easier at once.


You could have all group title in same colour or you could make it posible for te officers of group to set the color , the way they now can set the group symbole.


just my suggestion.

How about just letting people set the color of their name and group title, like we can with our little "I am editing this object" effect?

Hmm. Where's the issue, really?

Simple formula... everyone in Second Life has a First Name and a Surname. Therefore, the last two words are ALWAYS the persons name. Anything before that is the title.

I must aggree with the original poster. It would be good to somehow separate titles and names.

I'm really new to Secondlife. I was just attending some event where there were 20 people or so packed tightly together. It was hard to try and find the person speaking when I wanted to IM him for clarification.

Instead of coloring, how about adding a linebreak between title and name? On top of that, perhaps some 1pt change of font size?

I'm not online right now, so I can't verify. but I recall now the title-name string can linebreak at whatever position making it rather obfuscated when many people are standing near each other.

I wish the title were on it's own line, in a slightly smaller font, and the first and last names were put together on their own line.

I don't get the weird placement used where the title and first name are on one line and the last name is on a line by itself?

ie:

      Mentor
Kex Godel

   Happy Mocha :)
Francis Chung

  Aerodrome Pilot
Aimee Weber

Of course the centering here is a little off, but in-game it'd be centered more accurately.

/me Agrees with Kex

One thing I see a lot of newbies do, is they call someone by part of their title, especially if the title is something like "Sky Guide James Miller"; It would not be all that unusual for someone to call him "Sky".

I think if the names could be re-formatted so titles are on a separate line from name, it would maybe help make this less ambigious, and even for veterans, it would make it a lot faster to pick out someone in a crowd by parsing over the names on screen.

I second Kex's motion.

Add me to the list with Kex, Strife and Phaedrus.


FairChang
Pituca Chang

Alternately, making the title a different color than the name may make the demarcation clear even to n00bz.

yeah its a pretty common thing... when i have thew 'faux' group selected *EVERY* newbie i have ever met has called me faux

i tend to agree with both suggestions in that the group title would be (as a default) nice to be smaller than the normal lettering, centered on its own line, and say 'green' as a default (to the people's names orange/beige) and obviously customizable from there via the ini file.

I disagree, this isn't a difficulty, this is people being too lazy to think for themselves, and doing this only promotes such laziness.

I like how it's contiguous, it's a title afterall, not a supertext, just like "Captain Jack Sparrow" is all one line, it's not (Captain) JACK SPARROW, as if he were ashamed he was a captain.

Sure it confuses newbies, but is that really a problem?

Sorry Alex, but your argument is flawed for several reasons.

First of all, to go with your example, under the current system, it would read:

Captain Jack
Sparrow

...as if he wants to be referred to as Captain Jack, and Sparrow is an afterthought. I'm fairly certain even one as conceited and vain Captain Sparrow would prefer not to be referred to in this manner. For this part of your argument to be valid, wouldn't all three words need to be on the same line? He, afterall, seemed to have no problem referring to himself as Captainjacksparrow, almost as if the whole thing were one big word.

Second, even if he did want to be called Captain Jack, I don't think he'd start a group called "Captain" in order to do it. You're forgetting that group titles exist solely indicate affiliation with a group. They are not courtesy titles or proper titles to be used in conjunction with someone's name when addressing that person. Therefore they have no place being on the same line as the name.


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Yes it's a problem. I actually posted about this myself a while back. (I got no response though. I guess people like Arwen better than me.)

My main group title is 5 words long. My first name is not as immediately recognizable as a name as yours is, Alex. I am not a Steve or a Suzie or a Chris or a Jack. I am Chosen.

Now when a newbie (and even some oldies) are confronted by the mass of letters required to spell out "Lord of Sci Fi Geeks Chosen Few", they tend to get all confused and they often end up just callig me "Few", as "Few" is the only word on a line by itself, making it easier to immediately read. I hate being called by my last name. Even though they obviously don't mean anything by it, it feels very unfriendly.

I'm not sure what the good folks at LL were smokin' the day they decided that group names somehow belong with first names and last names belong somewhere else, but whatever it was, I hope they run out of it soon. I'm sure this would take all of 10 seconds to fix.



Kris, you are assuming that everyone in SL is as wise and as intelligent as you are. I can assure you they are not. In SL as in all things, if you want something to work properly, you gotta make it fool-proof. Obviously the current title system does nto work properly, as there are way too many fools who simply don't get it.

hmm hows this for an idea. Let us place where the line feed is. So if we want it all on one line we can put are nick on one line or if we want it over 2 we can. With of course collor text support.

"With of course collor text support."

I'm happy with orange titles, rather than rainbow titles. Though I suppose just like Quake 3, colored names aren't too bad. I mainly don't like the idea because SL names (including group titles) are very long, and a rainbow 30 character line is much worse than a simple rainbow 'Anarki'

I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, group titles are definitely misused, and I understand that newbies and not-so-newbies who aren't paying attention get easily confused with "titles". It makes sense to move the first name to a second line (with the surname).

However, titles are also used CREATIVELY, and sometimes with very humorous effects I still laugh every time I see someone with the "By golly, it's Name Surname" title (or similar copycats). This, of course, would completely disappear from the game.

Since people are nowadays using hovertext to express themselves creatively in a similar fashion, I guess the current trend of hilarious titles would continue with hovertext.

So, I abstain from voting on this issue Either the current system stays and people have to adapt, or we get a new system, and we need to get more creative in other, yet unknown ways. I can't decide which way is "better".