Second Life Forums Archive - A.I SDK (contentious!)

DoctorMike Soothsayer

He's not a real doctor.

Join date: 3 Oct 2005

Posts: 113

10-13-2005 04:05

As an A.I and Software Agents researcher, I would be really interested in an SDK for hooking up virtual people to the game. Maybe robots (artificial people) are not allowed/desirable in SL. If so it's a gonner, but NPCs for filming and research into artificial people and virtual avatars that can react to certain events would be cool. A wonderful research tool for the academic community.

blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

10-13-2005 04:38

Yeah, you could take begging for L$ to a whole new level!

Or maybe cybering for L$ to a whole new level?

Kind of like elisa, but works for fetishes.

I've often wondered how much AI works has been done in IRC

Ben Bacon

Registered User

Join date: 14 Jul 2005

Posts: 809

10-13-2005 06:41

From: blaze Spinnaker

I've often wondered how much AI works has been done in IRC

Turing test in IRC: Try to hold a religious or philosophical discussion for more than 10 minutes without being told by the other party that he haxx0r3d ur mutha when hitler was a n00b.
If after 10min the discussion is still on-track you are:

Talking to an AI
Probably one yourself

Doc Mike - I really like the idea. There's no SDK or API at the moment, and may not be one for quite a while --- unless --- you are part of an academic research program with a large budget to throw at Linden Labs to fund the development.

So, pleeeeeeeeeeze be part of an academic research program with a large budget to throw at Linden Labs to fund the development.

Strife Onizuka

Moonchild

Join date: 3 Mar 2004

Posts: 5,887

10-13-2005 14:38

well you could probably hack something together with AutoIt3.

A cyber bot would be interesting. I bet Turing would blush.

_____________________

Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river.
- Cyril Connolly

Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence.
- James Nachtwey

SuezanneC Baskerville

Forums Rock!

Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

10-13-2005 16:34

From: Strife Onizuka

well you could probably hack something together with AutoIt3.

A cyber bot would be interesting. I bet Turing would blush.

How do you read the chat text for use with AutoIt3?

_____________________

-

So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them.

I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to

http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne

-

http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03.

Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard,
Robin, and Ryan

-

Strife Onizuka

Moonchild

Join date: 3 Mar 2004

Posts: 5,887

10-14-2005 00:34

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

How do you read the chat text for use with AutoIt3?

you could use Etherial and reverse enginere the chat protocall, and sniff it out.

you could set the chat background transparentcy to 1 then take regular screen shots and use ocr software to parse it to text; you know the font so it's very possible to do so.

Or you could have a script listening on channel 0 and have it send regular emails.

_____________________

Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river.
- Cyril Connolly

Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence.
- James Nachtwey

Luciftias Neurocam

Ecosystem Design

Join date: 13 Oct 2005

Posts: 742

Would this be of any help?

10-17-2005 09:32

Azrael Baphomet and I have been working on a sort of AIML for Second Life for use in english language-actuated scripts and virtual concierge applications for one's businesses, properties...

So far I'm reasonably pleased with the results I'm getting. Perhaps something written in LindenAIML, as I'm calling it, can be used on the dialogue side for a NPC.

Code and some documentation here:

/54/d3/65497/1.html

I'm starting a sourceforge project for this...project should be approved in a few days...

DoctorMike Soothsayer

He's not a real doctor.

Join date: 3 Oct 2005

Posts: 113

too many ideas!

10-25-2005 06:26

From: Ben Bacon

<snip>

Doc Mike - I really like the idea. There's no SDK or API at the moment, and may not be one for quite a while --- unless --- you are part of an academic research program with a large budget to throw at Linden Labs to fund the development.

So, pleeeeeeeeeeze be part of an academic research program with a large budget to throw at Linden Labs to fund the development.

Well actually...

The only thing I can honestly offer is time, skill, and my HUGE BRAIN! I guess we have to work with what there is, convince Linden that we are doing good work that extends their product, then get into talks...

If there was a simple way to slave the client, it would free up a lot of reverse engineering; I hate reverse engineering things cos it destroys time, resources, and good will. If I could just catch chat and im and then be able to squirt replies and/or AV commands we could get a believable remote. My other dream is to snag the save video to disk into a streaming server, so SLers could 'view' someone's viewpoint; great for sports, or those private detectives that are apparently around.

Oh and evolving code for artificial life...

and so on...

Mike

_____________________

Performance Artist and educator
"Thinking outside the Prim"

Nyoko Salome

kittytailmeowmeow

Join date: 18 Jul 2005

Posts: 1,378

wow...

10-25-2005 16:33

sure would be fun to have an sl version of weta's 'massive', eh??

but, barring that... are any of the previously mentioned, or can anyone suggest, an 'animation recorder' in sl that might be usable with an avi-ish model? that would make stuff like video/theatre production pretty simple...

_____________________

Nyoko's Bodyoils @ Nyoko's Wears
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Centaur/126/251/734/
http://home.comcast.net/~nyoko.salome2/nyokosWears/index.html

"i don't spend nearly enough time on the holodeck. i should go there more often and relax." - deanna troi

Navillus Batra

Registered User

Join date: 4 Jul 2006

Posts: 22

SL Chatbot with full AIML access

08-14-2006 17:08

We have written a script that interfaces via the HttpRequest protocols with a AIML based chatbot hosted on Pandorabots free service. To give it better 'awarness' of Second Life we have developed a set of keywords that are programmed into the AIML, but are parsed by the script to complete function calls. We have also started working on a Second Life specific aiml file, but it will always be a work in progress because of its importance.

We have setup several webpages detailing our SL Chatbot.

http://www.wetwarehacker.com/secondlifechatbot.html

Norman Desmoulins

Grand Poohba

Join date: 10 Nov 2005

Posts: 194

08-14-2006 17:44

another use for libsecondlife.Proxy

you could easily have a .net program do the parsing & chatting... it would have to be a local machine thing, so that you have complete control... would be able to do the chatting as well as handle any of IM's that come in.

_____________________

A.I SDK (contentious!)
DoctorMike Soothsayer He's not a real doctor. Join date: 3 Oct 2005 Posts: 113	10-13-2005 04:05 As an A.I and Software Agents researcher, I would be really interested in an SDK for hooking up virtual people to the game. Maybe robots (artificial people) are not allowed/desirable in SL. If so it's a gonner, but NPCs for filming and research into artificial people and virtual avatars that can react to certain events would be cool. A wonderful research tool for the academic community.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	10-13-2005 04:38 Yeah, you could take begging for L$ to a whole new level! Or maybe cybering for L$ to a whole new level? Kind of like elisa, but works for fetishes. I've often wondered how much AI works has been done in IRC
Ben Bacon Registered User Join date: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 809	10-13-2005 06:41 From: blaze Spinnaker I've often wondered how much AI works has been done in IRC Turing test in IRC: Try to hold a religious or philosophical discussion for more than 10 minutes without being told by the other party that he haxx0r3d ur mutha when hitler was a n00b. If after 10min the discussion is still on-track you are: Talking to an AI Probably one yourself Doc Mike - I really like the idea. There's no SDK or API at the moment, and may not be one for quite a while --- unless --- you are part of an academic research program with a large budget to throw at Linden Labs to fund the development. So, pleeeeeeeeeeze be part of an academic research program with a large budget to throw at Linden Labs to fund the development.
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	10-13-2005 14:38 well you could probably hack something together with AutoIt3. A cyber bot would be interesting. I bet Turing would blush. _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	10-13-2005 16:34 From: Strife Onizuka well you could probably hack something together with AutoIt3. A cyber bot would be interesting. I bet Turing would blush. How do you read the chat text for use with AutoIt3? _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Strife Onizuka Moonchild Join date: 3 Mar 2004 Posts: 5,887	10-14-2005 00:34 From: SuezanneC Baskerville How do you read the chat text for use with AutoIt3? you could use Etherial and reverse enginere the chat protocall, and sniff it out. you could set the chat background transparentcy to 1 then take regular screen shots and use ocr software to parse it to text; you know the font so it's very possible to do so. Or you could have a script listening on channel 0 and have it send regular emails. _____________________ Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey
Luciftias Neurocam Ecosystem Design Join date: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 742	Would this be of any help? 10-17-2005 09:32 Azrael Baphomet and I have been working on a sort of AIML for Second Life for use in english language-actuated scripts and virtual concierge applications for one's businesses, properties... So far I'm reasonably pleased with the results I'm getting. Perhaps something written in LindenAIML, as I'm calling it, can be used on the dialogue side for a NPC. Code and some documentation here: /54/d3/65497/1.html I'm starting a sourceforge project for this...project should be approved in a few days...
DoctorMike Soothsayer He's not a real doctor. Join date: 3 Oct 2005 Posts: 113	too many ideas! 10-25-2005 06:26 From: Ben Bacon <snip> Doc Mike - I really like the idea. There's no SDK or API at the moment, and may not be one for quite a while --- unless --- you are part of an academic research program with a large budget to throw at Linden Labs to fund the development. So, pleeeeeeeeeeze be part of an academic research program with a large budget to throw at Linden Labs to fund the development. Well actually... The only thing I can honestly offer is time, skill, and my HUGE BRAIN! I guess we have to work with what there is, convince Linden that we are doing good work that extends their product, then get into talks... If there was a simple way to slave the client, it would free up a lot of reverse engineering; I hate reverse engineering things cos it destroys time, resources, and good will. If I could just catch chat and im and then be able to squirt replies and/or AV commands we could get a believable remote. My other dream is to snag the save video to disk into a streaming server, so SLers could 'view' someone's viewpoint; great for sports, or those private detectives that are apparently around. Oh and evolving code for artificial life... and so on... Mike _____________________ Performance Artist and educator "Thinking outside the Prim"
Nyoko Salome kittytailmeowmeow Join date: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 1,378	wow... 10-25-2005 16:33 sure would be fun to have an sl version of weta's 'massive', eh?? but, barring that... are any of the previously mentioned, or can anyone suggest, an 'animation recorder' in sl that might be usable with an avi-ish model? that would make stuff like video/theatre production pretty simple... _____________________ Nyoko's Bodyoils @ Nyoko's Wears http://slurl.com/secondlife/Centaur/126/251/734/ http://home.comcast.net/~nyoko.salome2/nyokosWears/index.html "i don't spend nearly enough time on the holodeck. i should go there more often and relax." - deanna troi
Navillus Batra Registered User Join date: 4 Jul 2006 Posts: 22	SL Chatbot with full AIML access 08-14-2006 17:08 We have written a script that interfaces via the HttpRequest protocols with a AIML based chatbot hosted on Pandorabots free service. To give it better 'awarness' of Second Life we have developed a set of keywords that are programmed into the AIML, but are parsed by the script to complete function calls. We have also started working on a Second Life specific aiml file, but it will always be a work in progress because of its importance. We have setup several webpages detailing our SL Chatbot. http://www.wetwarehacker.com/secondlifechatbot.html
Norman Desmoulins Grand Poohba Join date: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 194	08-14-2006 17:44 another use for libsecondlife.Proxy you could easily have a .net program do the parsing & chatting... it would have to be a local machine thing, so that you have complete control... would be able to do the chatting as well as handle any of IM's that come in. _____________________

Welcome to the Second Life Forums Archive

A.I SDK (contentious!)