I propose the creation of a new vehicle type, namely, type Avatar. The avatar type vehicle would fly just like an avatar does.
This would mean that we could select the sit option on the pie menu and then fly as normal.
If other people chose to sit on the vehicle they'd sit down in the same spot as usual and go along for the ride.
This would eliminate the need to write a bunch of vehicle engine code. Avatar flight is pretty nice as it is. Also flight aid scripts like the X-flight script could work like normal.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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09-23-2005 04:43
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Byron McHenry
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09-23-2005 11:50
well the problem with engine coding is most users are going for the general effect of a vehicle if some one had time and we had havok 2 you might find that vehicles might be alittle more elaborate coding wise. also prim limits are effecting this as well.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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09-23-2005 13:37
The new vehicle type Avatar would not prevent people from using all the other options and techniques currently available for vehicles.
What is would do would be to let a prim fly like an avatar, with avatars sitting on it. People could fly together as a group for exploring without any significant coding. Alternately one could have the prim take controls and be remote piloted like an avatar while the user's avatar is still. _____________________
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Aliasi Stonebender
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09-23-2005 14:14
The new vehicle type Avatar would not prevent people from using all the other options and techniques currently available for vehicles. What is would do would be to let a prim fly like an avatar, with avatars sitting on it. People could fly together as a group for exploring without any significant coding. Alternately one could have the prim take controls and be remote piloted like an avatar while the user's avatar is still. True. you can accomplish something very much like this in scripting now, although getting it to act *precisely* like an avatar is a bit hard. Having it mesh much more closely with the physics system would be nice. _____________________
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Strife Onizuka
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09-23-2005 14:17
I fully support this feature suggestion
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Julian Fate
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09-23-2005 14:53
Maybe I'm missing the point but couldn't you just attach a vehicle object to your butt, drop in an animation overrider to keep you sitting, and go flying?
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Jillian Callahan
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09-23-2005 15:02
Maybe I'm missing the point but couldn't you just attach a vehicle object to your butt, drop in an animation overrider to keep you sitting, and go flying? At the moment you could have something like this with a god amount of work to make the thing fly like an av does. What she seems to be asking for is a vehiclke type default that would require very little work to fly like an av does. I'd be especially for this if it did some things like avs - "walk" mode and "fly" mode, changes to walk mode when you hit something while flying downward. Stuff like that. Seems a bit much though - it would require a major expansion to the vehicle system. Not that I'd mind.  _____________________
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Strife Onizuka
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09-23-2005 15:06
I think if they just made two new vehical types that would be best
VEHICLE_TYPE_AVATAR_WALK VEHICLE_TYPE_AVATAR_FLY It's very difficult to get a vehicle moving like an avatar _____________________
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Torley Linden
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09-23-2005 15:12
Strife, I'm curious, remember that time I rode on your back? How did you do that? That was pretty kewl!
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Strife Onizuka
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09-23-2005 15:19
A specialy crafted vehicle that took weeks of tinkering and development (and it's not finished yet)
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Torley Linden
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09-23-2005 15:21
It was certainly fun and impressive.
Keep me uptodate with it please, you have such a great mind about such things. _____________________
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Blueman Steele
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09-23-2005 15:53
Maybe I'm missing the point but couldn't you just attach a vehicle object to your butt, drop in an animation overrider to keep you sitting, and go flying? but you can't give rides like that I want to ride Sue's butt! |
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Strife Onizuka
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09-23-2005 16:04
This is what i made if anyone was wondering
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10-25-2005 15:46
Suezanne - YES!
Strife - Awesome! I had an idea for a fun object to make. A remote control or brain-control cap device. You use the remote, the remote waits until someone sits our handy-dandy "brain cap" which then is a vehicle that overrides their anims to fake the AV walking around while the person with the remote control would control the vehicle/braincap. I didn't get far because its so tough to script a vehicle that moves like an AV, and then emulate all the walking animations.. Could also be used for NPC's in role-playing games - just connect a machine and find away around the idle-logout, and have your NPC character appear to walk around, talk, ect. Could probably be used for a lotta other things. Heck, all we'd need then would be a way to script wearing/unwearing clothing and you'd have the mannequin's people keep suggesting. I like the idea of having VEHICLE_TYPE_AVATAR_WALK && VEHICLE_TYPE_AVATAR_FLY, additionally having a way to just leave the normal walk animations on instead of having to add in an animation override would be cool. _____________________
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Aliasi Stonebender
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10-25-2005 16:16
Suezanne - YES! Strife - Awesome! I had an idea for a fun object to make. A remote control or brain-control cap device. You use the remote, the remote waits until someone sits our handy-dandy "brain cap" which then is a vehicle that overrides their anims to fake the AV walking around while the person with the remote control would control the vehicle/braincap. I didn't get far because its so tough to script a vehicle that moves like an AV, and then emulate all the walking animations.. Actually, Deevyde Maelstrom has this, but he does it by directly controlling an avatar with an attachment. He's a mad scientist, what do you expect but a mind-control Dee-vyce.  _____________________
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Logan Bauer
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10-25-2005 16:20
Actually, Deevyde Maelstrom has this, but he does it by directly controlling an avatar with an attachment. He's a mad scientist, what do you expect but a mind-control Dee-vyce. Sweet, someone already made it? I'll have to check it out - still wholeheartedly endorsing this feature all the way because of the other doors it would open. _____________________
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Strife Onizuka
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10-25-2005 16:35
... The vehical i made can be controlled by any of the av's on it.
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Aliasi Stonebender
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10-25-2005 16:47
Sweet, someone already made it? I'll have to check it out - still wholeheartedly endorsing this feature all the way because of the other doors it would open. Oh, yes, an "avatar" vehicletype would be great for... well... giant robots and the like, without resorting to overrides and offset animations and so forth. Anyway, Dee doesn't sell it yet, but it takes total control. the only hitch, of course, is you do have to click "yes" on the permissions. _____________________
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