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Kris Ritter

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10-20-2005 15:20

Since Perspecta supports OpenGL, can we have support for it so that we can project SL in true 3d in realtime onto our desk tops?

(Oh. And can someone buy me one?)

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Jeffrey Gomez

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10-20-2005 17:35

http://www.forbes.com/infoimaging/2004/05/05/cx_pp_05053dtv_ii.html

Soon enough.

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Teeny Leviathan

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10-20-2005 17:46

It would be nice to see a whole sim on our desktops, but everything would be very tiny. The globe is only 20". When they can make an affordable 6' diameter display, I'll get one.

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William Withnail

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3d glasses

10-20-2005 18:01

http://www.emagin.com/html/consumer_products.htm

Phoenix Psaltery

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10-20-2005 18:28

From: William Withnail

http://www.emagin.com/html/consumer_products.htm

Gee, ONLY $899. Hmm... how many L$ is that...?

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Bertha Horton

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10-20-2005 18:34

•People have been talking about true 3D displays since 1992 or so (I remember an article in Discover about it) and I think it's taking too long because of stonewalling from within the industry. Remember how long it has taken to give us HDTV (10 years!).
•Didn't Ralph Kramden talk about waiting for "3D Stereovisions" before getting a TV? He ended up sharing Norton's set though...
•When will we be getting 4D eyes so we can look backwards in time?

Beatfox Xevious

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10-20-2005 21:41

From: William Withnail

http://www.emagin.com/html/consumer_products.htm

Here's a far cheaper alternative you can use with your existing CRT monitor:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=3DWLESSCRT-N&cpc=SCH&srm=0

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Kris Ritter

paradoxical embolism

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10-21-2005 00:49

From: Beatfox Xevious

Here's a far cheaper alternative you can use with your existing CRT monitor:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=3DWLESSCRT-N&cpc=SCH&srm=0

I have those!

I can recommend them. They rawk!

However... neither they nor the stoopidly expensive ones offered as alternatives above are 3d! It's just a way to make 3d a bit more convincing on a 2d medium. So nyah!

But seriously.. these 60 buck jobbies are just as good, if not better than the more expensive ones. Oh, and get their DVD software if ya get them - it converts DVD movies to 3d in realtime in the player. And does a darn fine job of it, too.

Essence Lumin

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10-21-2005 04:14

Maybe not 3d but fun (it was a fark photoshop).

Torley Linden

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10-21-2005 04:19

^ that does look like fun. Looks like a relative of Cory Doctorow too.

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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10-21-2005 04:47

When I look at how much desk space my monitors occupy I think I would say they are extremely three dimensional. Not the display, of course, just the thing itself.

How do the glasses like the one's Beatfox pointed out work with needing reading glasses? Are you expected to get your reading glasses between your eyeballs and the 3d glasses?

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Beatfox Xevious

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10-21-2005 13:19

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

How do the glasses like the one's Beatfox pointed out work with needing reading glasses? Are you expected to get your reading glasses between your eyeballs and the 3d glasses?

Those 3D glasses are designed to fit over any eyeglasses you may have. I got the wired version a few years back and they fit over mine fairly well, although they do have a tendency to slip down my nose.

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10-21-2005 14:45

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Kris Ritter

paradoxical embolism

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10-22-2005 01:37

Alternatively, I'd settle for support and someone buying me this...

http://felix3d.com/www/index.php?show=Felix%203D%20Display

Teeny Leviathan

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10-22-2005 05:48

From: Bertha Horton

•People have been talking about true 3D displays since 1992 or so (I remember an article in Discover about it) and I think it's taking too long because of stonewalling from within the industry. Remember how long it has taken to give us HDTV (10 years!).
•Didn't Ralph Kramden talk about waiting for "3D Stereovisions" before getting a TV? He ended up sharing Norton's set though...
•When will we be getting 4D eyes so we can look backwards in time?

Damn, someone else remembered that old Honeymooners episode! Ralph was a cheap, fat bastard, wasn't he?

AJ DaSilva

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10-22-2005 09:19

I remember watching a 3D display (normal looking screen, 3D image - not those silly globe things

) at ECTS years and years ago. It wasn't all that great but I hear they've come on a long way since then.

Anyway, it is possible to buy relativly inexpensive 3D monitors (here's one for example) we're just waiting for support for the standard APIs.

Why are we still using 2d monitors?
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	10-20-2005 15:20 Since Perspecta supports OpenGL, can we have support for it so that we can project SL in true 3d in realtime onto our desk tops? (Oh. And can someone buy me one?) kthxbye http://www.actuality-systems.com/index.php/actuality
Jeffrey Gomez Cubed™ Join date: 11 Jun 2004 Posts: 3,522	10-20-2005 17:35 http://www.forbes.com/infoimaging/2004/05/05/cx_pp_05053dtv_ii.html Soon enough. _____________________ ---
Teeny Leviathan Never started World War 3 Join date: 20 May 2003 Posts: 2,716	10-20-2005 17:46 It would be nice to see a whole sim on our desktops, but everything would be very tiny. The globe is only 20". When they can make an affordable 6' diameter display, I'll get one. _____________________ The Default Avatars were created by Linden Lab They evolved. They rebelled. There are many copies. And they have a plan.
William Withnail Gentleman Adventurer Join date: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 154	3d glasses 10-20-2005 18:01 http://www.emagin.com/html/consumer_products.htm
Phoenix Psaltery Ninja Wizard Join date: 25 Feb 2005 Posts: 2,599	10-20-2005 18:28 From: William Withnail http://www.emagin.com/html/consumer_products.htm Gee, ONLY $899. Hmm... how many L$ is that...? P2 _____________________
Bertha Horton Fat w/ Ice Cream Join date: 19 Sep 2005 Posts: 835	10-20-2005 18:34 •People have been talking about true 3D displays since 1992 or so (I remember an article in Discover about it) and I think it's taking too long because of stonewalling from within the industry. Remember how long it has taken to give us HDTV (10 years!). •Didn't Ralph Kramden talk about waiting for "3D Stereovisions" before getting a TV? He ended up sharing Norton's set though... •When will we be getting 4D eyes so we can look backwards in time?
Beatfox Xevious is THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE Join date: 1 Jun 2004 Posts: 879	10-20-2005 21:41 From: William Withnail http://www.emagin.com/html/consumer_products.htm Here's a far cheaper alternative you can use with your existing CRT monitor: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=3DWLESSCRT-N&cpc=SCH&srm=0 _____________________ My Beatworks: Zephyr Chimes wind chimes, the KanaMaster Japanese kana tutor, and the FREE Invisibility Prim Public. Look for them at the Luskwood General Store in Lusk (144, 165). "You have been frozen. You cannot move or chat. A pony will contact you via instant message (IM)." - mysterious system message I received after making off with Pony Linden
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	10-21-2005 00:49 From: Beatfox Xevious Here's a far cheaper alternative you can use with your existing CRT monitor: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=3DWLESSCRT-N&cpc=SCH&srm=0 I have those! I can recommend them. They rawk! However... neither they nor the stoopidly expensive ones offered as alternatives above are 3d! It's just a way to make 3d a bit more convincing on a 2d medium. So nyah! But seriously.. these 60 buck jobbies are just as good, if not better than the more expensive ones. Oh, and get their DVD software if ya get them - it converts DVD movies to 3d in realtime in the player. And does a darn fine job of it, too.
Essence Lumin . Join date: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 806	10-21-2005 04:14 Maybe not 3d but fun (it was a fark photoshop).
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	10-21-2005 04:19 ^ that does look like fun. Looks like a relative of Cory Doctorow too. _____________________
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	10-21-2005 04:47 When I look at how much desk space my monitors occupy I think I would say they are extremely three dimensional. Not the display, of course, just the thing itself. How do the glasses like the one's Beatfox pointed out work with needing reading glasses? Are you expected to get your reading glasses between your eyeballs and the 3d glasses? _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Beatfox Xevious is THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE Join date: 1 Jun 2004 Posts: 879	10-21-2005 13:19 From: SuezanneC Baskerville How do the glasses like the one's Beatfox pointed out work with needing reading glasses? Are you expected to get your reading glasses between your eyeballs and the 3d glasses? Those 3D glasses are designed to fit over any eyeglasses you may have. I got the wired version a few years back and they fit over mine fairly well, although they do have a tendency to slip down my nose. _____________________ My Beatworks: Zephyr Chimes wind chimes, the KanaMaster Japanese kana tutor, and the FREE Invisibility Prim Public. Look for them at the Luskwood General Store in Lusk (144, 165). "You have been frozen. You cannot move or chat. A pony will contact you via instant message (IM)." - mysterious system message I received after making off with Pony Linden
Osprey Therian I want capslocklock Join date: 6 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,049	10-21-2005 14:45 oooooooooooh - It's a crystal ball _____________________ http:www.atomic-raygun.com Combat Cards in Europa [url=http://slurl.com/secondlife/grignano/118/116/]The Photography Studio in Grignano[/url] Mud! Mud! Glorious mud! Nothing quite like it for cooling the blood. So, follow me, follow, down to the hollow, And there let us wallow in glorious mud. Flanders and Swan
Kris Ritter paradoxical embolism Join date: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 6,627	10-22-2005 01:37 Alternatively, I'd settle for support and someone buying me this... http://felix3d.com/www/index.php?show=Felix%203D%20Display
Teeny Leviathan Never started World War 3 Join date: 20 May 2003 Posts: 2,716	10-22-2005 05:48 From: Bertha Horton •People have been talking about true 3D displays since 1992 or so (I remember an article in Discover about it) and I think it's taking too long because of stonewalling from within the industry. Remember how long it has taken to give us HDTV (10 years!). •Didn't Ralph Kramden talk about waiting for "3D Stereovisions" before getting a TV? He ended up sharing Norton's set though... •When will we be getting 4D eyes so we can look backwards in time? Damn, someone else remembered that old Honeymooners episode! Ralph was a cheap, fat bastard, wasn't he?
AJ DaSilva woz ere Join date: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1,993	10-22-2005 09:19 I remember watching a 3D display (normal looking screen, 3D image - not those silly globe things ) at ECTS years and years ago. It wasn't all that great but I hear they've come on a long way since then. Anyway, it is possible to buy relativly inexpensive 3D monitors (here's one for example) we're just waiting for support for the standard APIs.

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