Potential Corporate Customers and Adult Ratings in avocatio virtualis
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Hypatia Callisto
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04-28-2009 19:15
I have a blog post response about those potential corporate customers, and adult ratings. I have outlined the problems and some possible solutions as well as another method to monetizing content in Second Life, and why this current "solution" is really more about selling mainland and very little to really address the adult content problem. http://minervan.wordpress.com/2009/04/29/the-potential-corporate-customers-and-adult-ratings/
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Briana Dawson
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04-28-2009 19:42
From: From Blog ALLOW content creators to make PG, Mature and Adult rated content that can be rezzed across grids, while preserving the permissions system. Allow standalones and private sim owners to decide which of this content can be rezzed in their systems. Make this system OPT IN. Content creators need to *submit* their merchandise for ratings. I will be happy to pay a small fee for this. There is no doubt the Teen grid would love to buy PG rated content from the Adult grid too. I am certain many content creators would be FINE with a controlled content system that is cross grid portable, as long as they have the choice whether to participate in it or not. UNSCREENED content should be allowed as usual, in Second Life proper (the Linden Lab main grid), in Mature sims and up, and also in private sims on the discretion of the sim owners. NOT on standalone grids. Problem solved. HAI LL, I HAZ IDEA 2 MONETIZED CONTENT 4 U. Don’t forget to thank me if you use the idea  Submitting content.... I dunno about that.
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Nina Stepford
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04-28-2009 21:34
worse still is the thought of our scripts being handed over to rogue servers willy nilly. if sim owners have an option to disable such and such content from their standalone sim, i would hope content creators would be afforded a similar option. From: blog Create an inventory system that can be ported across grids. That is, a Second Life member can still be attached to their Second Life inventory while in a stand alone Second Life sim.
ALLOW content creators to make PG, Mature and Adult rated content that can be rezzed across grids, while preserving the permissions system.
Allow standalones and private sim owners to decide which of this content can be rezzed in their systems.
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Hypatia Callisto
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04-29-2009 02:39
You can just opt out. And I have provided in this idea, that unscreened content is opted out by default. So your content is staying here if here is where you want it.
Those who don't want to opt out, don't have to. It is you who is saying "OMG, you cannot have a choice to sell outside the Main Grid". and that is wrong.
Anyway, the situation is easily solved by the fact that LL is charging high prices and only selling the standalone to the corps.
Opensim is nowhere involved in this idea.
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Hypatia Callisto
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04-29-2009 02:47
The options are simple:
LL is selling a standalone Second Life in response to the corporates who didn't buy SL, who on exit interviews said "too much sex" ...
The corporates want content. So do you think it is better to let
Rivers Run Red (the FIC)
Sell them that content - alone, and as you have no ability to compete with them for content, you are locked out by default -
or -
Have a way to opt in to sell your content to the corps that LL was lamenting over losing, with a rating system, obsoleting the Ursula method of "push people into buying land" -
or -
Suffer the current solution until some other company comes along (probably Amazon sticking Opensim on their turnkey solutions and letting you use their payment system, filters and search functions.)
Your choice...
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Hypatia Callisto
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04-29-2009 03:10
Your scripts aren't being handed over willy-nilly - because again as I said - UNSCREENED CONTENT IS OPTED OUT BY DEFAULT - Don't screen your content. You will stay on the Main Grid, and your scripts will only stay on the main grid. No worries.  Your scripts are safe. Because content creators have to pay - and they are screened - and they have to sign a contract - and the content is vetted - it is submitted for an approvals process - this really should be the case with all PG stuff at the very least, to allow only PG content in PG sims. All the local content on the Main Grid can continue as before. No change. But of course, you are right to worry - because people who wish to move between grids, and there will be many, will insist that they take their stuff with them. And they will ask you to rate your products. However I feel it is an unfounded worry - the risks are handled in much better ways than they are right now. This has another good and unintended effect. Kids selling on the Teen Grid can sell content back to the Main grid. Giving them more money in their pockets to play on the TG. They can also buy Main grid merchandise, giving the teens more choices without a grid merger. This also allows educational institutions buy better and more varied content for sims that have no choice but to be hosted in house - say you have a class of seven year olds - due to COPPA laws no child is allowed in Second Life under the age of 13. Not only that - high school classes which have kids between ages - mixed classes between 17 and 18 years of age, have some of their students shoved onto the main grid. Hence they also see the Teen Grid as not a very good solution. I think its all a very clean solution  Everybody wins. I like solutions where there are no losers 
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Nina Stepford
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04-29-2009 05:29
1. i only mentioned it once  2. the all or nothing aspect is unappealing. basically, if i elect to share my content on the maccas grid then i have given ll eternal permission to pass my content on willy nilly till the end of time. who knows, in 6 months every opensim startup on earth could be running our scripts on their bedroom sim servers. 3. i believe coppa is no more.
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Briana Dawson
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04-29-2009 07:35
After reading this from your blog: From: Hypatia Blog I have often had thoughts about how we can extend the model of selling content beyond Second Life, to the burgeoning grids that are founded on OpenSimulator. It is growing clearer to me that a site that sells across grids is going to have to ask for real life identity information from resellers and hold them accountable when theft occurs with full bans. Linden Lab surely has displayed that they are completely unconcerned about it. Well sure! They’re profiting from it, so why not. :/
It’s not perfect, nothing is. But I have seen sites like Daz3d and Renderosity make it for years by pulling vendor accounts who steal and resell content - by making a vendor account a little harder to get. In the case of DAZ, it is *very* hard to get. For content aimed at the grid operator level - which would by necessity have to be full permissions - we may have to start asking a bit more information about sellers and holding them accountable for their actions.
Somehow we have to make it harder for people to sell into grids unscreened content, reselling anything they find on Google search with complete impunity.
It really sounds like you just want to squish the non-professional content maker. Those people who surf google for textures and cannot produce their own. You also want to lock down the content creation process, thus stifling it, eliminating small time producers. I think you are all about stifling creativity from the masses and reducing the content creation pool to only highly skilled professionals. Much easier to line your pockets that way.
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Nina Stepford
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04-30-2009 00:40
no, it isnt that. i think its an overdose in altruism.
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