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Prokofy Neva

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Join date: 28 Sep 2004

Posts: 3,698

11-23-2005 03:53

"The Closing of An Open Society"
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o Before June 2005, all telehub sims placed on the auction were placed there by LL at far higher opening bids than other regular sims -- thus LL knowingly placed a higher value on telehub land and represented it as higher value historically.

o Contrary to popular belief, it's not mall barons like Anshe Chung who own many of the malls in SL today; it's mom-and-pop store owners and smaller entrepreneurs -- often who put considerable money and time into building their own individual stores at telehubs, not malls -- these are the people who are most being killed by LL's decision to pull telehubs.

o Content-creators who had democratic access to the public at telehubs are hurt as much as "mall barons" or store owners -- the sales they got from their telehub location more than covered their telehub rents but they will have difficulty restoring their traffic.

o This new middle class of SL who bought and built stores at telehubs should demand tier-free status for this telehub land for some specified period as compensation for this loss, which harms not only them but the entire SL economy; otherwise LL merely rewards the oligarchs once again in their unjust economy.

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Mina Welesa

Semi-retired

Join date: 19 Dec 2004

Posts: 228

11-25-2005 10:53

I apologize up front if I am incorrect, but I think the matter of telehub land is being taken far too seriously. Players who have high quality items for sale will still be able to sell their creations at the telehub or anywhere else. I fail to see how their business will necessarily suffer.

As far as paying too much for land, I suppose that's a risk inherent in investing in land in the first place.

I just don't see how this will have a long-term negative affect on anyone, unless they want it to.

Travis Lambert

White dog, red collar

Join date: 3 Jun 2004

Posts: 2,819

11-25-2005 12:58

Likewise, Mina - I feel like everyone is completely underestimating the effect on SL this change will have.

For the good of SL, I hope you're right & I'm wrong

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Robin Linden

Linden Lifer

Join date: 25 Nov 2002

Posts: 1,224

11-25-2005 13:02

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The Closing of An Open Society
Prokofy Neva Virtualtor Join date: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 3,698	11-23-2005 03:53 "The Closing of An Open Society" http://secondthoughts.typepad.com/ o Before June 2005, all telehub sims placed on the auction were placed there by LL at far higher opening bids than other regular sims -- thus LL knowingly placed a higher value on telehub land and represented it as higher value historically. o Contrary to popular belief, it's not mall barons like Anshe Chung who own many of the malls in SL today; it's mom-and-pop store owners and smaller entrepreneurs -- often who put considerable money and time into building their own individual stores at telehubs, not malls -- these are the people who are most being killed by LL's decision to pull telehubs. o Content-creators who had democratic access to the public at telehubs are hurt as much as "mall barons" or store owners -- the sales they got from their telehub location more than covered their telehub rents but they will have difficulty restoring their traffic. o This new middle class of SL who bought and built stores at telehubs should demand tier-free status for this telehub land for some specified period as compensation for this loss, which harms not only them but the entire SL economy; otherwise LL merely rewards the oligarchs once again in their unjust economy. _____________________ Rent stalls and walls for $25-$50/week 25-50 prims from Ravenglass Rentals, the mall alternative.
Mina Welesa Semi-retired Join date: 19 Dec 2004 Posts: 228	11-25-2005 10:53 I apologize up front if I am incorrect, but I think the matter of telehub land is being taken far too seriously. Players who have high quality items for sale will still be able to sell their creations at the telehub or anywhere else. I fail to see how their business will necessarily suffer. As far as paying too much for land, I suppose that's a risk inherent in investing in land in the first place. I just don't see how this will have a long-term negative affect on anyone, unless they want it to.
Travis Lambert White dog, red collar Join date: 3 Jun 2004 Posts: 2,819	11-25-2005 12:58 Likewise, Mina - I feel like everyone is completely underestimating the effect on SL this change will have. For the good of SL, I hope you're right & I'm wrong _____________________ ------------------ The Shelter The Shelter is a non-profit recreation center for new residents, and supporters of new residents. Our goal is to provide a positive & supportive social environment for those looking for one in our overwhelming world.
Robin Linden Linden Lifer Join date: 25 Nov 2002 Posts: 1,224	11-25-2005 13:02 This forum is for classified advertising, not stating points of view. Please use the discussion forums if you'd like to start a debate. _____________________

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