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Jsecure Hanks

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Join date: 9 Dec 2003

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06-23-2006 18:08

Wish radio in SL would just work?

Visit www.ultrastream.co.uk

Trading for three years now, UltraStream is a very popular provider of streaming radio to SecondLife members. We have a special relationship with Second Life in that if you order from us, we'll come in world, and verify your radio is streaming on your parcel correctly. We'll actually come in world to your parcel and help you get set up. No extra charge.

Our costs run as low as £10 / month and setup is instant. Let's sort out your soundtrack to your Second Life today

Rusholme Malone

Banned

Join date: 30 Jun 2006

Posts: 196

06-30-2006 18:37

Do you have the required MCPS/PRS and PPL licences?

http://www.mediauk.com/article/1

paulie Femto

Into the dark

Join date: 13 Sep 2003

Posts: 1,098

licenses

06-30-2006 19:05

http://guide.ultrastream.co.uk/index.php/Other/Licensing

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SuezanneC Baskerville

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Join date: 22 Dec 2003

Posts: 14,229

06-30-2006 21:25

Do you do videos? I saw a post from someone looking for a server for their home movies.

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Lina Pussycat

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Join date: 19 Jun 2005

Posts: 731

06-30-2006 22:40

From: SuezanneC Baskerville

Do you do videos? I saw a post from someone looking for a server for their home movies.

Video's in SL rely on them being in a quicktime appropriate format this is some kind of darwin server or something like that i forget. It's quite annoying really hehe. I think liscensing of internet radio is a little out there. its not like people are downloading the music your playing they are just simply listening to it it. But *shrugs* thats the music industry for ya folks. As if alot of the artists dont have enough money so as it is. Look at it this way unless you are profiting from selling their music online what really is the problem? Just another way for them to rip off the masses i suppose =/

Jsecure Hanks

Capitalist

Join date: 9 Dec 2003

Posts: 1,451

07-01-2006 01:53

From: Rusholme Malone

Do you have the required MCPS/PRS and PPL licences?

http://www.mediauk.com/article/1

Do YOU have the required licenses? It is stamped all over my site that if you transmit copyright materials (and there's nothing saying that that is what you will transmit) you need to aquire the proper licenses. But let's be clear. I just shovel traffic round the Internet bub. I'm not running a radio here. You are. So I'll leave the licensing to you

Rusholme Malone

Banned

Join date: 30 Jun 2006

Posts: 196

07-01-2006 04:30

From: Jsecure Hanks

Do YOU have the required licenses? It is stamped all over my site that if you transmit copyright materials (and there's nothing saying that that is what you will transmit) you need to aquire the proper licenses. But let's be clear. I just shovel traffic round the Internet bub. I'm not running a radio here. You are. So I'll leave the licensing to you

I'm not running an internet radio station.

But it has to be said that it was 3am when I posted that, and I'm a mouthy, argumentative Manc twat so I was just looking for an argument. I was wrong and you're right. Sorry!

Jsecure Hanks

Capitalist

Join date: 9 Dec 2003

Posts: 1,451

07-01-2006 04:34

From: Rusholme Malone

I'm not running an internet radio station.

But it has to be said that it was 3am when I posted that, and I'm a mouthy, argumentative Manc twat so I was just looking for an argument. I was wrong and you're right. Sorry!

It's OK

But it is important to remember the burden of licensing is with the streamer, not the internet access provider. That said, have a good one... Also, some people might not even stream copyright material (their own work / their own chat show etc) so they need not even think about licensing

Rusholme Malone

Banned

Join date: 30 Jun 2006

Posts: 196

07-01-2006 04:42

The PPL have been having a real go at internet broadcasters recently. They've made existing FM/AM commercial stations (eg. Capital Radio, Heart) geo-lock their streams so listeners outside the UK aren't able to hear them. Not quite sure what all this regulation with an iron fist is meant to achieve, especially when many of those stations are already audible around Europe via satellite, but it's got to stop soon, otherwise it'll kill online radio.

A way I've got of getting around it is to dub songs onto a remote server overseas and use automation software running on that server to stream the music, so it doesn't touch the UK and therefore avoids the jurisdiction of the PPL etc.

Jsecure Hanks

Capitalist

Join date: 9 Dec 2003

Posts: 1,451

07-01-2006 05:02

From: Rusholme Malone

The PPL have been having a real go at internet broadcasters recently. They've made existing FM/AM commercial stations (eg. Capital Radio, Heart) geo-lock their streams so listeners outside the UK aren't able to hear them. Not quite sure what all this regulation with an iron fist is meant to achieve, especially when many of those stations are already audible around Europe via satellite, but it's got to stop soon, otherwise it'll kill online radio.

A way I've got of getting around it is to dub songs onto a remote server overseas and use automation software running on that server to stream the music, so it doesn't touch the UK and therefore avoids the jurisdiction of the PPL etc.

I think they're probably thinking they should cut the internet into regional zones, because then they can charge more for reselling the same old rights over and over again. A pound of flesh to stream to the UK. A pound of flesh to stream to Europe. A pound of flesh to stream to the USA... I think their problem is they think too much about how they can tax for everything, and less about how to promote their product. But hey, whatever floats their boat

Rusholme Malone

Banned

Join date: 30 Jun 2006

Posts: 196

07-01-2006 05:10

One thing about SL that pisses me off is the endless tide of unlicensed in-world radio stations. Without revealing too much, I send very large cheques off to various licensing bodies each month and it riles me to see these clowns streaming Christina Aguilera records into their land parcels without paying.

Jsecure Hanks

Capitalist

Join date: 9 Dec 2003

Posts: 1,451

07-01-2006 05:17

From: Rusholme Malone

One thing about SL that pisses me off is the endless tide of unlicensed in-world radio stations. Without revealing too much, I send very large cheques off to various licensing bodies each month and it riles me to see these clowns streaming Christina Aguilera records into their land parcels without paying.

Yes at present there are thousands and thousands of unlicensed radio stations present. This means if you're one of the radios who actually pay your licensing fees, are you doing it all for nothing? The music industry will thank you for your efforts, but at present they are not stamping down on unlicensed internet radios, due to their own business elsewhere, and the lack of funds the internet radios have.

I suppose at least you get your own peace of mind with proper licensing. And you don't have to fear taking out high profile adverts, or becoming too big, because you won't get shut down.

Get Radio Into Your Parcel Today
Jsecure Hanks Capitalist Join date: 9 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,451	06-23-2006 18:08 Wish radio in SL would just work? Visit www.ultrastream.co.uk Trading for three years now, UltraStream is a very popular provider of streaming radio to SecondLife members. We have a special relationship with Second Life in that if you order from us, we'll come in world, and verify your radio is streaming on your parcel correctly. We'll actually come in world to your parcel and help you get set up. No extra charge. Our costs run as low as £10 / month and setup is instant. Let's sort out your soundtrack to your Second Life today
Rusholme Malone Banned Join date: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 196	06-30-2006 18:37 Do you have the required MCPS/PRS and PPL licences? http://www.mediauk.com/article/1
paulie Femto Into the dark Join date: 13 Sep 2003 Posts: 1,098	licenses 06-30-2006 19:05 http://guide.ultrastream.co.uk/index.php/Other/Licensing _____________________ REUTERS on SL: "Thirty-five thousand people wearing their psyches on the outside and all the attendant unfettered freakishness that brings."
SuezanneC Baskerville Forums Rock! Join date: 22 Dec 2003 Posts: 14,229	06-30-2006 21:25 Do you do videos? I saw a post from someone looking for a server for their home movies. _____________________ - So long to these forums, the vBulletin forums that used to be at forums.secondlife.com. I will miss them. I can be found on the web by searching for "SuezanneC Baskerville", or go to http://www.google.com/profiles/suezanne - http://lindenlab.tribe.net/ created on 11/19/03. Members: Ben, Catherine, Colin, Cory, Dan, Doug, Jim, Philip, Phoenix, Richard, Robin, and Ryan -
Lina Pussycat Texture WizKid Join date: 19 Jun 2005 Posts: 731	06-30-2006 22:40 From: SuezanneC Baskerville Do you do videos? I saw a post from someone looking for a server for their home movies. Video's in SL rely on them being in a quicktime appropriate format this is some kind of darwin server or something like that i forget. It's quite annoying really hehe. I think liscensing of internet radio is a little out there. its not like people are downloading the music your playing they are just simply listening to it it. But shrugs thats the music industry for ya folks. As if alot of the artists dont have enough money so as it is. Look at it this way unless you are profiting from selling their music online what really is the problem? Just another way for them to rip off the masses i suppose =/
Jsecure Hanks Capitalist Join date: 9 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,451	07-01-2006 01:53 From: Rusholme Malone Do you have the required MCPS/PRS and PPL licences? http://www.mediauk.com/article/1 Do YOU have the required licenses? It is stamped all over my site that if you transmit copyright materials (and there's nothing saying that that is what you will transmit) you need to aquire the proper licenses. But let's be clear. I just shovel traffic round the Internet bub. I'm not running a radio here. You are. So I'll leave the licensing to you
Rusholme Malone Banned Join date: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 196	07-01-2006 04:30 From: Jsecure Hanks Do YOU have the required licenses? It is stamped all over my site that if you transmit copyright materials (and there's nothing saying that that is what you will transmit) you need to aquire the proper licenses. But let's be clear. I just shovel traffic round the Internet bub. I'm not running a radio here. You are. So I'll leave the licensing to you I'm not running an internet radio station. But it has to be said that it was 3am when I posted that, and I'm a mouthy, argumentative Manc twat so I was just looking for an argument. I was wrong and you're right. Sorry!
Jsecure Hanks Capitalist Join date: 9 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,451	07-01-2006 04:34 From: Rusholme Malone I'm not running an internet radio station. But it has to be said that it was 3am when I posted that, and I'm a mouthy, argumentative Manc twat so I was just looking for an argument. I was wrong and you're right. Sorry! It's OK But it is important to remember the burden of licensing is with the streamer, not the internet access provider. That said, have a good one... Also, some people might not even stream copyright material (their own work / their own chat show etc) so they need not even think about licensing
Rusholme Malone Banned Join date: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 196	07-01-2006 04:42 The PPL have been having a real go at internet broadcasters recently. They've made existing FM/AM commercial stations (eg. Capital Radio, Heart) geo-lock their streams so listeners outside the UK aren't able to hear them. Not quite sure what all this regulation with an iron fist is meant to achieve, especially when many of those stations are already audible around Europe via satellite, but it's got to stop soon, otherwise it'll kill online radio. A way I've got of getting around it is to dub songs onto a remote server overseas and use automation software running on that server to stream the music, so it doesn't touch the UK and therefore avoids the jurisdiction of the PPL etc.
Jsecure Hanks Capitalist Join date: 9 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,451	07-01-2006 05:02 From: Rusholme Malone The PPL have been having a real go at internet broadcasters recently. They've made existing FM/AM commercial stations (eg. Capital Radio, Heart) geo-lock their streams so listeners outside the UK aren't able to hear them. Not quite sure what all this regulation with an iron fist is meant to achieve, especially when many of those stations are already audible around Europe via satellite, but it's got to stop soon, otherwise it'll kill online radio. A way I've got of getting around it is to dub songs onto a remote server overseas and use automation software running on that server to stream the music, so it doesn't touch the UK and therefore avoids the jurisdiction of the PPL etc. I think they're probably thinking they should cut the internet into regional zones, because then they can charge more for reselling the same old rights over and over again. A pound of flesh to stream to the UK. A pound of flesh to stream to Europe. A pound of flesh to stream to the USA... I think their problem is they think too much about how they can tax for everything, and less about how to promote their product. But hey, whatever floats their boat
Rusholme Malone Banned Join date: 30 Jun 2006 Posts: 196	07-01-2006 05:10 One thing about SL that pisses me off is the endless tide of unlicensed in-world radio stations. Without revealing too much, I send very large cheques off to various licensing bodies each month and it riles me to see these clowns streaming Christina Aguilera records into their land parcels without paying.
Jsecure Hanks Capitalist Join date: 9 Dec 2003 Posts: 1,451	07-01-2006 05:17 From: Rusholme Malone One thing about SL that pisses me off is the endless tide of unlicensed in-world radio stations. Without revealing too much, I send very large cheques off to various licensing bodies each month and it riles me to see these clowns streaming Christina Aguilera records into their land parcels without paying. Yes at present there are thousands and thousands of unlicensed radio stations present. This means if you're one of the radios who actually pay your licensing fees, are you doing it all for nothing? The music industry will thank you for your efforts, but at present they are not stamping down on unlicensed internet radios, due to their own business elsewhere, and the lack of funds the internet radios have. I suppose at least you get your own peace of mind with proper licensing. And you don't have to fear taking out high profile adverts, or becoming too big, because you won't get shut down.

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