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Maerl Underthorn
i love almonds
Join date: 27 Jun 2003
Posts: 370
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03-17-2004 10:36
VATICAN CITY - The Vatican issued a broad condemnation Tuesday of fertility treatments such as in-vitro fertilization, calling the destruction of embryos in the process a "massacre of the innocents."
The Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano published the final communique from the Vatican's Pontifical Academy for Life following a conference it hosted last month on "The dignity of human procreation and reproductive technologies: anthropological and ethical aspects."
In the communique, the academy restated the Vatican position that any treatment that substitutes for sexual intercourse between a husband and wife _ such as the creation of an embryo in a laboratory that is later implanted _ is considered illicit because the embryo isn't the fruit of the "conjugal union."
However, the academy gave its blessing to therapies that can "facilitate" the natural sex act. It didn't give examples, but church officials have said drugs that help a woman ovulate are considered acceptable by the church since they allow for the possibility of "natural" fertilization.
In the statement, the academy expressed concern that doctors were referring couples more often to in-vitro technologies rather than diagnosing and correcting their underlying sterility.
It condemned the use of embryos for research, and called the destruction or loss of embryos in the in-vitro process "a true massacre of the innocents of our time: no war or catastrophe has ever caused so many victims."
The Vatican holds that embryos are human and thus deserve all the rights and dignity granted to humans.
While acknowledging the suffering of parents who want a child, as well as the church's desire for married couples to bear children, the academy said there were limits.
"It needs to be repeated that an understandable 'desire for a child' can never transform itself into a pretentious 'right to a child' and beyond that, 'at all costs,'" the statement said.
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Garoad Kuroda
Prophet of Muppetry
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
Posts: 2,989
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03-17-2004 10:59
Hmm, well it's pretty silly. But it's the Vatican, it's their job to be extremist. Just be glad they're not executing people anymore... 
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WTF is C3PO supposed to be USEFUL for anyway, besides whining? Stupid piece of scrap metal would be more useful recycled as a toaster. But even that would suck, because who would want to listen to a whining wussy toaster? Is he gold plated? If that's the case he should just be melted down into gold ingots. Help the economy some, and stop being so damn useless you stupid bucket of bolts! R2 is 1,000 times more useful than your tin man ass, and he's shaped like a salt and pepper shaker FFS!
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
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03-17-2004 13:05
Awwwww, hello little embryo. Goo goo! Coochie coochie!. Ain't it cute?
Just kidding. Catholics are entitled to their beliefs, even if I personally don't understand them. Maybe it will encourage more infertile Catholic couples to adopt. I have a good friend who is a devout Catholic and is unable to conceive. She and her husband adopted two russian children and they're the smartest coolest little kids ever. She feels like it was meant to be that she couldn't have kids of her own, and even as an atheist having met those wonderful kids, it's hard not to agree. There's another bonus for them too... they can mate like rabbits since they're still "trying" to have their own (even though it can't happen).
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Darwin Appleby
I Was Beaten With Satan
Join date: 14 Mar 2003
Posts: 2,779
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03-17-2004 16:36
Adoption can be a great thing or it can be an aweful thing, just like having kids of your own. The only difference is that it's easier to predict the aweful things when their yours 
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Touche.
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